Holy Cr*p, the UCI did it (Contador)

[BotanyBay]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...y-action-against-alberto-contador_149040?news

 

[Altitude]

Is "crap" unacceptable now?

Anyhow the UCI didn't really do anything. They made a point to say that he is not considered guilty yet. They've just shifted the responsibilty over to someone else.

 

[Christian]

Contador could face a two-year ban and the loss of his third Tour de France title should the RFEC decide he is guilty of a doping offence.

"The UCI has today sent its request to the Spanish Federation that has competence in this regard. It is now the responsibility of this Federation to determine whether Alberto Contador has breached the UCI Anti-Doping Rules."

So basically he is free to ride again.

 

[Hugh Januss]

"The UCI has today sent its request to the Spanish Federation that has competence in this regard. It is now the responsibility of this Federation to determine whether Alberto Contador has breached the UCI Anti-Doping Rules."

From the CN story. Before you get too excited.
I am sure he will receive the same harsh treatment from the RFEC that Valverde did.

Oops, beaten to the punch.

 

[LugHugger]

Hmmm, it remains to be seen whether the RFEC have the cojones to follow through with the disciplinary process. I have my doubts that they will find Bertie guilty.

It would seem though that the UCI have been convinced by the labs/WADA that the case would result in a guilty verdict being returned at CAS should the UCI appeal a not guilty/no case verdict in Spain.

Interesting times ahead. RFEC to return a verdict before the end of the year if I understand correctly.

 

[roundabout]

Whatever happened to UCI doesn't consider it to doping crap fed by mouthpieces like Smeets?

 

[BotanyBay]

Is "crap" unacceptable now?

Anyhow the UCI didn't really do anything. They made a point to say that he is not considered guilty yet. They've just shifted the responsibilty over to someone else.

I was pretty much joking. I wondered how long it would take for them to make the call. Interesting:

"The UCI has today sent its request to the Spanish Federation that has competence in this regard"

And I wonder what federation that might be?

 

[hfer07]

there you have it:
Pat/UCI have found the proper route to walk away from any responsibility by dumping all the decision making to RFEC & have them accountable for whatever is the final ruling-and we all know THE SPANIARDS WILL NOT PUNISH AC FOR A PITY 0.00000005 GRAMS OF CLEN!!!!

 

[The Devil]

This is great news. The Spanish Cycling Federation asked to take action against Contador. Well done the WADA, with Your meticulous investigation. A two Year ban and Stripped of his third Tour title. Image tarnished forever. May quit as earlier indicated by Contador himself. Andy Schleck may won the Tour after all. But the irony is tragic as Schleck himself is a candidate for the suspicion of doping in this Years Tour.

 

[Mambo95]

They made a point to say that he is not considered guilty yet.

Quite right, too. 'Innocent until proven guilty' is fundamental to any just legal system. McQuaid may not be perfect, but he's not Kim Jong-Il.

 

[Altitude]

Quite right, too. 'Innocent until proven guilty' is fundamental to any just legal system. McQuaid may not be perfect, but he's not Kim Jong-Il.

Damn.. I keep forgetting that a positive control is no longer evidence of doping.

 

[webvan]

Yeah, but if they're proceeding it means they think they have evidence to back it up, if not they would have dropped the case, like in any legal system.

 

[Christian]

Damn.. I keep forgetting that a positive control is no longer evidence of doping.

"There's always a Grandmother, or a filet, or something."

 

[Night Rider]

Damn.. I keep forgetting that a positive control is no longer evidence of doping.

Define positive. I'm playing devils advocate here, it is every riders right to challenge the validity of a positive test. Just because person A blindly accepts that the laboratory must be correct it doesn't mean the rider has to. Therefore what one person says is a positive might not actually legally be so.

To the actual press release. It's not surprising, it was always going to be RFEC's case.

 

[The Hitch]

Holy Cr*p, im getting tired of stories claiming a verdict on a Spanish doper, only to turn out false.

Over the last month weve had about 3 "Ezequiel Mosquera gets off" stories on here. The first turned out he was free to ride, not that the case was dropped. The second one in a thread titled "Mosquera aquited" was based on a mistranslation, and the 3rd one it turned out was simply the media getting ahead of itself a bit.

And weve had a similar rollercoaster with Contador.

Everytime, the title/ story grabs your attention reaches and you think "WOW, this is interesting" and in every case, once you read into the second page, it turns out to be a dud

 

[icefire]

Everytime, the title/ story grabs your attention reaches and you think "WOW, this is interesting" and in every case, once you read into the second page, it turns out to be a dud

Look at it this way: the off-season threads aren't limited to the polls and predictions for 2011

 

[DirtyWorks]

He's Forgiven

The Spanish federation takes the heat for giving Contador a little vacation from the UCI peloton and the UCI gets to produce a "Tough on PED's" message.

If the Spanish federation does the job right, it will be a complicated finding with lots of pages and nothing in particular said leaving the media to shrug their shoulders. Amateur hour starts after that with the Spanish federation called all kinds of names by anyone with a brain in their head while the UCI gets back to the business of keeping the "important" WADA positives secret.

What does Pat give the Spanish federation as renumeration(sp??) for taking some PR flack?

 

[python]

snip--
To the actual press release. .

there is no new press release on contador as of yet...check for yourself.
http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI7/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2Mjc&LangId=1

all the reports are based on the uci spokesman confirming to velonation that the rfec was sent a request at 6:30 cet to open the proceedings. he also said the official press release will contain more details as to the decision reasoning.

again, to me this indicates that the uci was told by wada 'we doubt it was contamination' - which effectively means that wada considers blood transfusion as the likeliest channel of clen in his system.

we should have more details in 6-8 hours.

 

[Dimtick]

I don't understand this at all. Is this the standard procedure to pass the case to the riders nationality? Then does it come back to the UCI for sentencing?
What is the procedure for this?

 

[Adamastor]

CAS will decide...

 

[python]

CAS will decide...

a lot depends on how and what did the uci and wada investigated.

the latest piece from velonation refers to the additional blood and urine tests that the uci and wada were waiting for. it sounds like the uci/wada will pursue the cas appeal if the rfec rules 'not guilty' but i don't read the same zeal and unity with which the uci/wada appealed the valverde's decision.

we also need to keep in mind that contador whilst wada/uci tested his tour samples, may have been chasing other leads that never made the news and might be an unexpected factor in the rfec proceedings.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Damn.. I keep forgetting that a positive control is no longer evidence of doping.

Hasn't been since 1999.

The ambiguity of the UCI statement is clear for all to see.
I agree with Python. This will be a reluctant proceeding.

 

[Darryl Webster]

I`ve a suspition "procedural errors"...are going to be Contadors get out of jail card. While the lab test results may well be conclusive the manner of announcement was not in keeping with procedure and protocol.
At best ( from Contadors perspective) this will result in the case getting thrown out ( much as many cases in law do on technicality)or at worst the shortest possible sanction mitigated because procedure wasnt followed.

 

[David Suro]

To quote Brer Rabbit, "Please, please, please don't throw me into that briar patch!"

 

[HoustonHammer]

I`ve a suspition "procedural errors"...are going to be Contadors get out of jail card. While the lab test results may well be conclusive the manner of announcement was not in keeping with procedure and protocol.
At best ( from Contadors perspective) this will result in the case getting thrown out ( much as many cases in law do on technicality)or at worst the shortest possible sanction mitigated because procedure wasnt followed.

Can you name a single case of doping that was thrown out on a 'technicality' with respect to how the offense was announced? I'm sure the Spanish have a long list of phony pretenses on their minds, but I doubt this is one of them.