How did Contador win the 2011 Giro ?

[Andynonomous]

Just wondering what the general sentiment is.

How did Contador win the 2011 Giro ?

 

[rolfrae]

For the people who have lost faith in cycling, Contador had a message.

“Well they should come out to the climbs, to Zoncolan or Marmolada,” he said, “to be there and witness first hand how exciting and entertaining this sport is. Also, riding into the Piazza in Milan was a wonderful finish to the Giro.”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/8...irming-second-Giro-victory.aspx#ixzz1Nm4XPCqj

That quote could have come straight from the Armstrong years. He didn't say say "I don't dope" just that the sport is really entertaining. Well I watched the race and it was f*cking boring watching that little tw*t taking the mickey out of everyone. It's like watching one guy in a Ferrari racing a load of other guys on skateboards FFS.

 

[hrotha]

I'm not sure clen is part of his standard program, just something he and others would take if all is not well with his weight. I imagine whatever he did last year, he did this year too, but he's seemingly back at 2009 levels (last year he wasn't so strong), and that might be because of Riis, but on the other hand I always thought he had his own people so not much would have changed this year.

 

[sniper]

I think it's HGH, testosterone and bloodtransfusions.
masking agents for breakfast.

What a major fraud this guy is.
I liked LA much better. He frauded with class. AC only gets on my nerves.
If Christmas were in July, i'd ask Santaclaus to give AC a four year ban and strip him of all his 2010/11 titels.

 

[maltiv]

. If Christmas were in July, i'd ask Santaclaus to give AC a four year ban and strip him of all his 2010/11 titels.

And give the victory to Scarponi, the guy who was a much better rider after coming back from his doping suspension? That sounds fair.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

There's no reason to suggest he has changed anything about his preparation except to be more careful (e.g. not use clenbuterol). He was extremely unlucky to get caught out by a test which wouldn't have got him if performed by a different lab.

 

[sniper]

And give the victory to Scarponi, the guy who was a much better rider after coming back from his doping suspension? That sounds fair.

Indeed it does.
Scarponi paid for being a fraud.
AC gets away with it.

Recall Etxebarría's twitter to AC? "Don't cry now when before you were silent".

 

[Benotti69]

this Giro win was very much in the vein of TdF 99-05 when the winner was on a different level. There's a new doping Doc who Contador has an exclusive with or is Ferarri now working for Riis?

Whatever, he doped and he doped well.

I asked this question in the road racing section and didnt get an answer, does anyone recall a rider who could climb and TT as well as Contador. The 2 seem at opposite ends of the spectrum but he can win both MTF and TTs How? Dope that is my answer.

 

[rzombie1988]

All I know is that he is on some serious stuff. This Giro is proof of that. I don't think it could be more obvious.

 

[MrRoboto]

I am kind of looking forward to see him in the Tour now, because either;
a) He has some shame, and we get to see him actually losing.
b) He tears everyone apart again, and it will be the most ridiculous performance in cycling history.

 

[veganrob]

What does it really matter what his program was? Reduce everything to the common denominator of talent and he is the winner anyway. He did what he was expected to do.

 

[Berzin]

I am kind of looking forward to see him in the Tour now, because either;
a) He has some shame, and we get to see him actually losing.
b) He tears everyone apart again, and it will be the most ridiculous performance in cycling history.

Ah, just in time for the Alberto Contador Appreciation thread.

Your premise is off by much. The most ridiculous performances in cycling history took place during "The Cyclism 1999-2005". Please go back and check those races and tell me what the definition of "ridiculous" is again.


No surprise to me he's dominating the way he does. Contador has been an excellent time trialer and climber since he's been riding. If you want to think he's doping just to be a hater, that's your right. But to call his performances ridiculous is out of line given his talents.

Besides, since when have Nibali and Scarponi been grand tour juggernaughts the likes of whom were able to challenge Contador?

This is another false premise based on the overestimation of the riders he competed against. Look at that top-20 list again and tell me who had the talent to compete against him. Not one.

 

[richwagmn]

I'd like to think AC was clean but he was just soooo good. How can he ride so much better than the others day in and day out?

To see a guy never struggle during in a GT. Something's not right.

 

[ManInFull]

Please identify a successful cyclist whom The Clinic doesn't believe is a cheat.

 

[ManInFull]

I'd like to think AC was clean but he was just soooo good. How can he ride so much better than the others day in and day out?

To see a guy never struggle during in a GT. Something's not right.

So does that mean that Lance was not doping in 2003? He certainly suffered during that first ITT.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I'd like to think AC was clean but he was just soooo good. How can he ride so much better than the others day in and day out?

To see a guy never struggle during in a GT. Something's not right.

WTF? Do you not watch cycling? I mean, who says stuff like this? Did you not see him in the 2008 Giro getting dropped? How many stages did he win at the Tour last year? Zero. His first Tour was won by seconds, as was last year's Tour.

Seriously, I wonder if some people actually watch cycling or they just read the message boards and come up with crap.

 

[Orinda8]

I may be naive but I tend to think that with all of the controversy surrounding him he would not dare risk getting caught. Keep in mind that the Schlecks were not in the race and neither was Cadel. That is why the race was not close. The Tour will be a different race although I still think AC will have a close win. The bottom line for me is that he does not enforce the Omerta like Strongarm did (see Emma O'Reilly's letter this month to Bicycling magazine where she states she was terrorized for 2 years by him). So I can not understand the animosity toward AC building up as much as it is toward LA.

 

[Hugh Januss]

OK you guys have stumped me, I don't know which I think is dumber, that people think doping is the reason that Contador beat Scarponi and Nibali or that four people think he won clean. It's a toss up.
Come on folks, does anybody really think:
1) that Contador needed to be on something more than those other guys to beat them?
2) that he could dominate the way he did without being on anything, given that the others certainly are?

Edit: Dumberer has gone out to nine. Come on people!

 

[MrRoboto]

Your premise is off by much. The most ridiculous performances in cycling history took place during "The Cyclism 1999-2005". Please go back and check those races and tell me what the definition of "ridiculous" is again.

Ridiculous, a. Dominating two very hard grand tours only 1 month apart.

 

[BigBoat]

I'm not sure clen is part of his standard program, just something he and others would take if all is not well with his weight. I imagine whatever he did last year, he did this year too, but he's seemingly back at 2009 levels (last year he wasn't so strong), and that might be because of Riis, but on the other hand I always thought he had his own people so not much would have changed this year.

He; didnt use clenbuterol, LOL.

They use IGF-1, slin & blood dope with their own frozen red cells still.

Saxo bank could have had almost every rider on the team blood doped at some stage of the race.

HGH is ok for them early on in the mornings in smaller dosages. But they have to know if their to be tested or not which in past years the big teams have all known ahead of time.....

Contador can bring his undoped 350 watts FTP to 420 with a 58% crit....at 132 pounds....

haha, how'd you like to ride the Giro at 160 pounds and 350 FTP totoally clean. LOL, could you imagine trying to finish those stages, especially the 8 hour one.

The new UCI man Mike Turtur says: "I know it's hard to believe but there are 1 in 100-year athletes that produce a packing physically and psychologically, that makes them pretty unique people and we still have to believe that that's the case – not only in cycling but in all sports."

 

[hrotha]

He didn't use clenbuterol? And furthermore, "LOL"? Care to elaborate?

 

[roundabout]

The last 2 options are hard to believe. He is very likely to have doped before and it's very difficult to believe that a 'clean' rider can be that much better than people like his ex roommate.

I'd vote for the same as usual but more careful however I can't decide which of the first 2 options covers it best.

 

[Polish]

84hrs 5min fastest time ever?

 

[MR_Sarcastic]

"How did Contador win the 2011 Giro ?"



Little white bags maybe?

He must be clean. He never tested positive (in 2011)

 

[saganftw]

giro doesnt surprised me that much...contador won probably 90% of races he entered (serious races not the ones he is in early preparation),thats what strikes me as ridiculous...he is dominating so much i have to make up a new word for it- awesoculous