I’m disappointed that I didn’t win but I think Matthew is a 'suitable' champion.

[TubularBills]

So... Graceful George muffs his swansong... defers to young talent... and with characteristic dignity admits that the right man won.

So does 'suitable' mean, 'considering I doped throughout my career'?

...and how is it that the two 'Mavericks' of American cycling shunned the capstone event.

(perhaps because it isn't sponsored by a pharmaceutical company?)

http://carolinacyclingnews.com/2011/05/23/horner-and-leipheimer-not-starting-us-pro-championships/

bull****.

 

[131313]

Looking at the podium, I think Ted King would have been a suitable champion.

Listening to JB go on about the 'witch hunt', it's pretty much impossible to take anyone on that team seriously. The ridiculous performance at ToC put a lot in perspective for me.

Busche may be clean as a whistle, but his decision to ride for Bruyneel means he's going to be looked at sideways by a lot of guys in the peloton. And that includes me. When you ride 2 minutes faster in the TT than you did the year before in nearly identical conditions, people are going to ask questions. A natural progression? White lunch bag? Beet root juice works better than we thoughts? I don't know. But given his decision to ride for Bruyneel, I'm not going to feel bad for asking the question.

 

[greenedge]

Ted King's brother rides for RS they could have been on the same S**t. Also i thought that was a good ride in hot temperatures by Busche, working for King but allowed up the road which was the wrong move by some teams to let him go away. He was a collegiate runner a few yrs back, he needed experience riding, Bruyneel has a good eye for Talent eg, Levi, Hamilton, Contador, Who knows Busche might be the next one.

 

[euanli]

Ted King's brother rides for RS they could have been on the same S**t

 

[veganrob]

Yeah, it's a b!tch when some youngster on your old program beats you at your race. Ha.
It is impossible to think that anyone who rides for Bruyneel is clean. Suitable is the correct word allright.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Bruyneel has a good eye for Talent eg, Levi, Hamilton, Contador, Who knows Busche might be the next one.

Contador was found by Saiz. Hamilton was on Postal before Bruyneel got there. Levi is a rider so pathetic that he had to dope as an amateur. It appears that the only thing Bruyneel has an eye for is finding riders willing to dope.

The sad thing is that George is probably riding clean these days but is not in a position to criticize others for doing now what he did in the past.

George would have been a worthy champion. The rider who just put on a ridiculous display at the ToC with two AARP card carrying Kojaks punching several divisions above their natural weight class, not so much. This does not smell right.

 

[thingswelike]

Anyone else think that Bruyneel might have pushed for the win to send a message to Hincapie?
It's only a few days since JB/LA found that Hincapie may have told the GJ everything.

 

[Chuffy]

Anyone else think that Bruyneel might have pushed for the win to send a message to Hincapie?
It's only a few days since JB/LA found that Hincapie may have told the GJ everything.

If they weren't going to push for the win, why bother taking part?

I think you're trying too hard to find an angle here...

 

[131313]

Ted King's brother rides for RS they could have been on the same S**t.

umm....just because they have the same last name, doesn't mean they're brothers (they aren't).

He was a collegiate runner a few yrs back, he needed experience riding, Bruyneel has a good eye for Talent eg, Levi, Hamilton, Contador, Who knows Busche might be the next one.

Pretty much everyone at this level has talent. Bruyneel has a lot of very credible (in my opinion) allegations stacked up against him regarding how he develops that talent.

 

[TERMINATOR]

So... Graceful George muffs his swansong... defers to young talent... and with characteristic dignity admits that the right man won.

So does 'suitable' mean, 'considering I doped throughout my career'?

...and how is it that the two 'Mavericks' of American cycling shunned the capstone event.

(perhaps because it isn't sponsored by a pharmaceutical company?)

http://carolinacyclingnews.com/2011/05/23/horner-and-leipheimer-not-starting-us-pro-championships/

bull****.

Stop making mountains out of mole hills. Trying to micro-analyze quotes from professional bike riders after they've raced for 6 hours is not only stupid, but pointless.

Hincapie probably used the word "suitable" because that's the only word he has in his high school diploma vocabulary.

You people seem to expect quotes from Christopher Hitchens-like minds. Not gonna happen.

 

[euanli]

This greenedge guy is hilarious.

 

[DISTRICT 9]

Looking at the podium, I think Ted King would have been a suitable champion.

Listening to JB go on about the 'witch hunt', it's pretty much impossible to take anyone on that team seriously. The ridiculous performance at ToC put a lot in perspective for me.

Busche may be clean as a whistle, but his decision to ride for Bruyneel means he's going to be looked at sideways by a lot of guys in the peloton. And that includes me. When you ride 2 minutes faster in the TT than you did the year before in nearly identical conditions, people are going to ask questions. A natural progression? White lunch bag? Beet root juice works better than we thoughts? I don't know. But given his decision to ride for Bruyneel, I'm not going to feel bad for asking the question.

Busche is making a normal transition to cycling, he came from another sport. He beat big GEORGE by centimeters. They won from a breakaway. Big George is 36, Busche is 26, a second year pro. If you want to call Matt a cheater, you need to prove it with wattages, crit,bio-passport, positive drug test,etc.
As far as 2 minutes in a TT, well, he is in development, still improving.
If you really want to split hairs about the TT, how did DZ beat Zirbel?

 

[Hitchey]

I'll add my opinion that GH is just not a gracious but a rather sore loser. I'm not sure if that quote was taken when he was still anaerobic (most likely not), but the word suitable in my opinion, and based on some of his prior post race interviews, is a carefully chosen word.

Something along the lines of, "I'm really happy for MB, everyone in the break rode a fantastic race, he was strong enough and tactically astute enough to have been able to pass me again before the finish line. I've won the jersey plenty of times. I congratulate him".

Doesn't take much to say something so kind and simple.

His choice of the word suitable was consistent with how he responded post race after Leif Hoste took off with Boonen at Flanders (the most important race of the yr for some Belgians) a few years ago and lost to Boonen in the sprint "I had the legs, it should have been me" (I was astounded at that one), and then his comments during an interview after he was unable to get yellow at the tour a couple of yrs ago.

 

[riobonito92]

Suitable = someone with the talent and class to be champion, that is not someone who got a lucky bounce and will dishonour the jersey.

 

[FabulousCandelabra]

If you really want to split hairs about the TT, how did DZ beat Zirbel?

wha wha huh?? it's remarkable zirbel even came close to DZ.

 

[DISTRICT 9]

Suitable = someone with the talent and class to be champion, that is not someone who got a lucky bounce and will dishonour the jersey.

George has always had class. Maybe Busche was a little lucky to beat George in a sprint. Not to say that Busche is an undeserving winner. I do believe Busche has been racing the same tough classics that George has been for the past year.

Here is a "I believe in Miracles" Big George win, his biggest of his career.
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/tour05/?id=results/tour0515

Reminiscent of another "miracle" ride. By Micheal Boogard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20YnCVY0KlU

 

[eleven]

Anyone else think that Bruyneel might have pushed for the win to send a message to Hincapie?
It's only a few days since JB/LA found that Hincapie may have told the GJ everything.

I'm guessing Bruyneel was pushing for the win b/c he runs a professional cycling team and winning is part of the plan - for both you and your (future) sponsors.

 

[Zigster]

Hincapie probably used the word "suitable" because that's the only word he has in his high school diploma vocabulary.

You people seem to expect quotes from Christopher Hitchens-like minds. Not gonna happen.

yeah that hincapie documentary was actually pretty hard to watch. he often seems at a complete loss for words. i am actually surprised he pulled up "suitable".

 

[maltiv]

It's never a good sign when someone bursts into the scene at 26, coming from nowhere. And it's more worrying that he was able to simply ride guys like Tejay van Garderen and Andy Schleck straight off his wheel in ToC. That's not normal progression, that's insane. When you also add into the equation that he's from Radioshack I just can't believe in him.

Personally I have a lot more faith in athletes who are considered huge talents from their youth and progress gradually.

 

[eleven]

It's never a good sign when someone bursts into the scene at 26, coming from nowhere. And it's more worrying that he was able to simply ride guys like Tejay van Garderen and Andy Schleck straight off his wheel in ToC. That's not normal progression, that's insane. When you also add into the equation that he's from Radioshack I just can't believe in him.

Personally I have a lot more faith in athletes who are considered huge talents from their youth and progress gradually.

I'm not sure you can say he "burst into the scene...coming from nowhere".

2011
1st USA Pro Cycling Championships, Road Race
3rd USA Pro Cycling Championships, Time Trial
2010
3rd Tour of Denmark
4th Tour of Austria, Stage 3
5th USA Pro Cycling Championships, Time Trial
7th USA Pro Cycling Championships, Road Race

2009
5th USA Pro Cycling Championships, Road Race
7th Tour of Utah
9th Univest Grand Prix

A previous fifth in the road race, a seventh, and some good other finishes. He got in the right break and managed to just barely pip an aging (though great) rider at the line. I'm not sure it's that surprising.

As for riding Andy Schleck off his wheel at ATOC - that's not out of the ordinary for Schleck in May. His form is always a million times better (for whatever reason) in July.

 

[chris90]

King

Ted King's brother rides for RS they could have been on the same S**t. Also i thought that was a good ride in hot temperatures by Busche, working for King but allowed up the road which was the wrong move by some teams to let him go away. He was a collegiate runner a few yrs back, he needed experience riding, Bruyneel has a good eye for Talent eg, Levi, Hamilton, Contador, Who knows Busche might be the next one.

King does have a brother who races, but it's Robbie and not Ben. And he races for a regional team in New England and not for RS

 

[DISTRICT 9]

Stop making mountains out of mole hills. Trying to micro-analyze quotes from professional bike riders after they've raced for 6 hours is not only stupid, but pointless.

Hincapie probably used the word "suitable" because that's the only word he has in his high school diploma vocabulary.

You people seem to expect quotes from Christopher Hitchens-like minds. Not gonna happen.

I think Och really needs to get his rider radios tuned up, so he can 'prompt' Big George's speech synthesis. Not all of 'Big Georges' gray matter engages during Georges vocalization. What George meant to say was worthy. George's neurons were telling George to say suitable, such as in he is a suitable spouse for my sister, niece etc.
Telling.

 

[MD FACG FACP]

Well if you're going to question Busche ya really have to question Taylor Phinney. Racing against the big boys after winning the jersey last year his TT results are pathetic. Makes you wonder what he was on last year.

 

[tockit]

Is Busche a Doper???

Seems like he is staying with and/or beating several confessed dopers latley.

Is he on a medical program or just genetically gifted ???

 

[D-Queued]

Seems like he is staying with and/or beating several confessed dopers latley.

Is he on a medical program or just genetically gifted ???

Don't misunderestimate him.

Dave.