I need some guide here! PLEASE HELP ME!

[0o0Daz0o0]

What type of road bike would you wanna use it to race?
- Steel, Carbon, Titanium -


How is the ride using Fulcrum Racing Zero 2Way-Fit wheelset compare to others?

Which ceramic bottom bracket is good?
-Enduro, FSA, SRAM GXP, CeramicSpeed-



please help me bring this thread up.. i need HELPS from pro's.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Moving to the appropriate sub-forum.

Susan

 

[Bustedknuckle]

What type of road bike would you wanna use it to race?
- Steel, Carbon, Titanium -


How is the ride using Fulcrum Racing Zero 2Way-Fit wheelset compare to others?

Which ceramic bottom bracket is good?
-Enduro, FSA, SRAM GXP, CeramicSpeed-



please help me bring this thread up.. i need HELPS from pro's.

Aluminum for the frame, crisp, stiff, cheap.

Use a well designed handbuilt wheelset and save your $ on ceramics. They do nothing, are LESS reliable, cost too much $.

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

Aluminum for the frame, crisp, stiff, cheap.

Use a well designed handbuilt wheelset and save your $ on ceramics. They do nothing, are LESS reliable, cost too much $.

Thanks for the reply Bustedknuckle, but i dont think aluminum will be a good choice if you wanna use it for a race right? i thought most of them would probably use a carbon one. A well designed handbuilt wheelset? any recommendation of it? I need to buy separately of hubs and deciding rims and the spokes etc. It defineitly will cost lot than a prepare one for ya. Maybe i think i should skip ceramics on bottom bracket but i wanna know is it really true that when you have ceramic for bottom bracket is really smooth.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Thanks for the reply Bustedknuckle, but i dont think aluminum will be a good choice if you wanna use it for a race right? i thought most of them would probably use a carbon one. A well designed handbuilt wheelset? any recommendation of it? I need to buy separately of hubs and deciding rims and the spokes etc. It defineitly will cost lot than a prepare one for ya. Maybe i think i should skip ceramics on bottom bracket but i wanna know is it really true that when you have ceramic for bottom bracket is really smooth.

Are you paying for your race rig? One thing that is always true with bike racing, you are going to crash. If you are sponsored, ride what they give ya. If you are paying-get aluminum, cheaper, more durable in racing.

Wheelset design depends on you and your riding style, weight, technique. Apples to apples, handbuilt generally cost less, use standard parts, better hubs, weigh the same or less.

Testing on ceramic bearings show an improvement somewhere in the range of .2-.4%..not much, not worth the $.

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

Are you paying for your race rig? One thing that is always true with bike racing, you are going to crash. If you are sponsored, ride what they give ya. If you are paying-get aluminum, cheaper, more durable in racing.

Wheelset design depends on you and your riding style, weight, technique. Apples to apples, handbuilt generally cost less, use standard parts, better hubs, weigh the same or less.

Testing on ceramic bearings show an improvement somewhere in the range of .2-.4%..not much, not worth the $.

yes, i am paying for my race rig.. =( and this is the first time i am going into the bike racing and i doesn't know what will happened inside.. anyway i am riding a vintage steel bike. =P i am actually curious to know what is the result if you race with a steel bike over a carbon bike in the race competition. does anyone actually race with it before? =.='' curious

wheelset wise i am really troubled with too, i don't know what is the hub that is good and rim what is good, spoke what is good? but it seems that fulcrum racing zero 2way fit is good from all the reviews. I would prefer someone to really ride with it and share with their experience and also the ceramic bottom bracket. Ceramicspeed vs Enduro vs FSA vs SRAM GXP <- all this is in my curiosity mind.

 

[Black-Balled]

Does this help?:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10876

 

[Gotland]

What type of road bike would you wanna use it to race?
- Steel, Carbon, Titanium -


How is the ride using Fulcrum Racing Zero 2Way-Fit wheelset compare to others?

Which ceramic bottom bracket is good?
-Enduro, FSA, SRAM GXP, CeramicSpeed-



please help me bring this thread up.. i need HELPS from pro's.

Hard too tip without price range. I like canyons bikes very good value bikes. But since your wheels are pretty expensive I think money not the problem. So go with a good carbon frame that is ligth, stiff and feels good for you when you ride.

Bottom bracket I have only tested SRAM GPX and compere too a dura ace bracket it is not much differens. More then that it cost alot more.

Haven't tried that wheels so have know idea.

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

Hard too tip without price range. I like canyons bikes very good value bikes. But since your wheels are pretty expensive I think money not the problem. So go with a good carbon frame that is ligth, stiff and feels good for you when you ride.

Bottom bracket I have only tested SRAM GPX and compere too a dura ace bracket it is not much differens. More then that it cost alot more.

Haven't tried that wheels so have know idea.

Thanks for the reply Gotland, actually i am not looking to buy a new road bike now. Just in a curiosity of whether what type of road bike would you wanna use it to race? Just wanna analysis from pro's around the world what type of bike they use it to race, what is the differences of it if you actually upgraded it to a ceramic bottom brackets or wheelsets like fulcrum racing zero 2way-fit or other than these parts/ brands that i have mention.

 

[forty four]

Aluminum for the frame, crisp, stiff, cheap.

Use a well designed handbuilt wheelset and save your $ on ceramics. They do nothing, are LESS reliable, cost too much $.

absolutely incorrect i have used dura-ace and campy record standard bearing bottom brackets. recently switched to a cheap ceramic bb awesome crank spins and spins and spins amazing and well worth it quite a few watts saved over a day. cant wait to get ceramic bearings for my race wheels very much worth the money. sometimes people assume things i have actually used both ceramics are simply superior. you only need ceramics for hubs and b.brackets pulleys and headsets kinda pointless.

 

[forty four]

all the mechanics at my shop where i work were skeptics too once they were able to see a ceramic bb in action on my bike they all purchased them enough said.

 

[TheDude]

Loaded question.

Do you get free parts and have a dedicated mechanic. Then go all-out carbon with high-end carbon wheels and DI2 or Super Record. If you are a normal person, paying for your own bike and and have to take car of your own gear, something line a Cannondale CAAD9 (or I suppose 10 now), is a fraction of the cost, more likely to survive a crash, and is cheaper to repair.

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

absolutely incorrect i have used dura-ace and campy record standard bearing bottom brackets. recently switched to a cheap ceramic bb awesome crank spins and spins and spins amazing and well worth it quite a few watts saved over a day. cant wait to get ceramic bearings for my race wheels very much worth the money. sometimes people assume things i have actually used both ceramics are simply superior. you only need ceramics for hubs and b.brackets pulleys and headsets kinda pointless.

Thanks for the reply forty four, so it was really true that if you are using ceramic bb it will really spins and spins like you mention. what is the cheap ceramic bb that you are using? so is it to say that every ceramic bb is the same? what is the watts that you are refering <- sorry i need some guide on here too.. first time in understanding the watts, suddenly titanium frame came across to my mind. ' WHAT IS THE 6Al-4V/3Al-2.5V that they mean?

I guess if i put a ceramics into any road hub/ any training wheelset it will become a race wheelset as it runs smoothly..

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

Loaded question.

Do you get free parts and have a dedicated mechanic. Then go all-out carbon with high-end carbon wheels and DI2 or Super Record. If you are a normal person, paying for your own bike and and have to take car of your own gear, something line a Cannondale CAAD9 (or I suppose 10 now), is a fraction of the cost, more likely to survive a crash, and is cheaper to repair.

Thanks for the reply TheDude, Loaded question? erm i don't think i am rich just mainly wanna clear off my curiosity of all the questions i had and get the answer from pro's like you guys around the whole who race who cycle. Everyone would like to get a good machine prepared and train it and understand some of the theories behind it figuring out all the possibilities of whether is it true that the Ceramic is the better choice, Fulcrum wheel-set is good?

I have a dedicated mechanic too they are uncle's which is experience in modifying stuff. I believe minimum people thinking and concept is that brand like Campag shifter should stick to Campag RD. But the dedicated mechanic of mine can actually use it in Campag Record Shifter with Shimano 105 RD.

Carbon frame in my mind is that they would crack, maybe titanium would be a better choice? I like the combination of the images that some bike builder build on the Cannodale Cadd 9 is nice. It runs the same?

 

[Bustedknuckle]

all the mechanics at my shop where i work were skeptics too once they were able to see a ceramic bb in action on my bike they all purchased them enough said.

Enough said by you perhaps. I see and work on ceramics all the time(own a bike shop, am the main wrench) and even tho I can get them at EP or wholesale, say don't spend the $. Teeeny increase in performance(less than 1 watt) for a lot of $, hybrids so the non hardened portion wears, gets crappy quickly, market driven. I have upgraded many sram RED BBs to Force after a few rides in the rain and they feel like they are full of sand. Same for the pulleys, same for ceramic upgrades in many wheelsets. BUT yer $, do what you want.

 

[tubularglue]

I am curious as to what current/vintage steel road bike you own ?

make/components

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

I am curious as to what current/vintage steel road bike you own ?

make/components

sorry for the late reply tubularglue, ohh here it is this is my current/ vintage steel road bike i am using:



http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/0o0Daz0o0/_DSC0776.jpg

anyway how come there is links of girls rider.. =P

 

[elapid]

What type of road bike would you wanna use it to race?
- Steel, Carbon, Titanium -


How is the ride using Fulcrum Racing Zero 2Way-Fit wheelset compare to others?

Which ceramic bottom bracket is good?
-Enduro, FSA, SRAM GXP, CeramicSpeed-



please help me bring this thread up.. i need HELPS from pro's.

Are you a pro? What level are you racing at? What type of races do you do? The pros race what their sponsors give them. Good marketing, but doesn't mean much because pros are very different to the average Joe racer belting around crit circuits. Pros generally race carbon because it is light and the higher end models can be very stiff, but they get new bikes every year. Aluminum is also light, stiff and responsive and some professional teams still ride aluminum bikes. Major complaint about aluminum is the stiffness makes it uncomfortable for longer races because it transmits all the road chatter. However, for racing crits there is nothing wrong with an aluminum bike. Steel and titanium are comfortable bikes and can be very responsive, particularly the higher end models, but few pros would be racing on either steel or titanium. However, you'll see enough racing in Cat 1 to 4 on either steel or titanium. Less weight is better if you're climbing hills, which puts the balance in favour if carbon and aluminum frames. If you're not, then take your pick. Test ride different frames and models to see which suits you best.

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

Are you a pro? What level are you racing at? What type of races do you do? The pros race what their sponsors give them. Good marketing, but doesn't mean much because pros are very different to the average Joe racer belting around crit circuits. Pros generally race carbon because it is light and the higher end models can be very stiff, but they get new bikes every year. Aluminum is also light, stiff and responsive and some professional teams still ride aluminum bikes. Major complaint about aluminum is the stiffness makes it uncomfortable for longer races because it transmits all the road chatter. However, for racing crits there is nothing wrong with an aluminum bike. Steel and titanium are comfortable bikes and can be very responsive, particularly the higher end models, but few pros would be racing on either steel or titanium. However, you'll see enough racing in Cat 1 to 4 on either steel or titanium. Less weight is better if you're climbing hills, which puts the balance in favour if carbon and aluminum frames. If you're not, then take your pick. Test ride different frames and models to see which suits you best.

Thank you for the reply elapid =)

I am not a pro yet and i don't think so i will become one but i do like to race with oppenent as to test my a and climb hill, sprinting, i do daily training including riding a firm 40km and probably to 60km a day. I don't have sponsor bike, i bought everything fix everything through a friend which is mechanic which is those uncle that i had mention above. The parts mainly are second hand ='( my current bike is above too in the link i have paste, if there is any comments you are welcome to do so.. I am willing to accept all the commenst and make changes to the bike. Anyway also thanks for the sharing regarding about information regarding the different various frame that is use on what category type. Basically i come from asia and i doesn't know what is the category that is stated in western country, maybe you can share with me more and for the rest who is viewing this thread to have more understanding.

Welcoming for pro's to have experiences to share with beginners and other people who is viewing this thread.. especially the real fact of the bike with what type of wheelset, parts, any modification to it that is being used.

 

[tubularglue]

sorry for the late reply tubularglue, ohh here it is this is my current/ vintage steel road bike i am using:



http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/0o0Daz0o0/_DSC0776.jpg

anyway how come there is links of girls rider.. =P

i like your current bike. Clipless pedals would help tremendously. Give it a try.

I rode, this morning, a saturday world championships loop with about 45 riders. I was the only rider on a steel frame/fork. The bike is setup to my comfort level and weighs 20.5 lbs. Rides well, and brings a smile to my mug. The frame is over 20 years old, and has current components. It reminds me of my past.

These are affordable

Shimano 105. Long lasting, and easy entry/exit.

I tend to ride my bikes until they break.

womens links: i would rather look at women on bikes than men. jmo maybe some appreciate the links, and the talent

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

i like your current bike. Clipless pedals would help tremendously. Give it a try.

I rode, this morning, a saturday world championships loop with about 45 riders. I was the only rider on a steel frame/fork. The bike is setup to my comfort level and weighs 20.5 lbs. Rides well, and brings a smile to my mug. The frame is over 20 years old, and has current components. It reminds me of my past.

These are affordable

Shimano 105. Long lasting, and easy entry/exit.

I tend to ride my bikes until they break.

womens links: i would rather look at women on bikes than men. jmo maybe some appreciate the links, and the talent

Thank you for the comment =), i would probably change to a clip pedal when i have the totally trained stamina. If i am not wrong in knowledge of knowing the clips pedal is good when it could actually save up 50% of the pedal forcing. I have tried to stay beside a cyclist which uses the clips and just at that moment when he is actually saving up the energy to win the last breath to cut over me all the way down the route he is using 50% and i am all along pedaling round and round and de leg muscle arghx..

Do you have a pics of your vintage steel bike too? I wanna have a look at it.. =)

 

[tubularglue]

here ya go. http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10535&highlight=build

clipless pedals mean you are completely locked into the bike, regardless of statistics. It is just the feeling you get, not measurable.

just a thought.

I have never seen a daccordi like the one in your picture. it reminds me of Alan's/Vitus's of the past

 

[0o0Daz0o0]

here ya go. http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10535&highlight=build

clipless pedals mean you are completely locked into the bike, regardless of statistics. It is just the feeling you get, not measurable.

just a thought.

I have never seen a daccordi like the one in your picture. it reminds me of Alan's/Vitus's of the past

haha nice steel bike you have.. what is the brand it is? ya this is the daccordi steel bike frecci model, before that was all red with scratches. I went to get it redone brush off repaint etc. The Daccordi decals is i recreated myself. =) Who is Alan's/Vitus's of the past..?

Anyway i went to ride just now.. I feel so angry with myself cause stamina drop etc for just 1 month as i am working. I ride like a dog SHAG..!