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JFK assasination 50th anniversary

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Been watching lots of documentaries on him and the Killing Kennedy film in the last week.

On this week, I think his life as a politician and his role in situations like the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis, in trying to bring about racial equality as we saw in the University of Mississippi regarding black students entry, is worth remembering and discussing.
 
I remember the 40th anniversary of it well anyway. It was a Saturday. I was at the London school cross country championships, finished quite low down though. Miserable rainy weather no one wanted to take part but sometimes you got to grit your teeth. Long 3 hour journey just to get there too.
It was the Rugby World Cup Final. Australia vs England.
Didn't see it cos we were at the race but at about half an hour before my race, about 11 or so I think it was suddenly this buzz started to go around the park (there were thousands of people there for the run) and within 20 seconds it graduated into a cheer and got louder and it got really loud.

I always cared about dates so was aware that it was the 40th anniversary thing.
 
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Susan Westemeyer said:
Oh, I wasn't questionong whether anyone knew who he was. I was simply curious if anyone else had any personal memories.

I believe hiero2 was already claiming his pension when it happened.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
The whole familys history has been rather tragic :(

That said, can't say that I miss a man that almost got the whole world into a nuclear world war, but this is not the thread to discuss that.

R.I.P Jackie

I don't think many presidents would be as reserved as him after the Russians took out a U2 spy plane killing an American pilot. All around him he was getting bombarded by his advisors to take out the missile site before the weapons were full on ready to use.

Others might use the argument from a plus side of having nuclear weapons in the world as this was the main reason why war didn't happen and it resulted in JFK offering to remove weapons from Turkey.
 
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The Kennedys, corruption, the mob and what else... Couldn´t care less b/c the rich play their little dirty games and select their puppets (politicans).

R.I.P.all those who were killed in all those proxy wars. Only three US presidents weren´t going to war. Kennedy wasn´t one ot the few...
 
gooner said:
I don't think many presidents would be as reserved as him after the Russians took out a U2 spy plane killing an American pilot. All around him he was getting bombarded by his advisors to take out the missile site before the weapons were full on ready to use.

Others might use the argument from a plus side of having nuclear weapons in the world as this was the main reason why war didn't happen and it resulted in JFK offering to remove weapons from Turkey.

He refused it on some occations first, wich led to the missile crisis to start with... If my brain doesn't play tricks on me :eek:
 
The Hitch said:
I remember the 40th anniversary of it well anyway. It was a Saturday. I was at the London school cross country championships, finished quite low down though. Miserable rainy weather no one wanted to take part but sometimes you got to grit your teeth. Long 3 hour journey just to get there too.
It was the Rugby World Cup Final. Australia vs England.
Didn't see it cos we were at the race but at about half an hour before my race, about 11 or so I think it was suddenly this buzz started to go around the park (there were thousands of people there for the run) and within 20 seconds it graduated into a cheer and got louder and it got really loud.

I always cared about dates so was aware that it was the 40th anniversary thing.

You where lucky, when I did an inter schools cross country race, it was up on the fells around Bellingham and there was snow and an ice cold wind that cut through you.:D

kennedy was shot when I was just a year old, I was listening to an interesting radio interview about him and his dad, apperently his dad was a bit of an appeaser to hitler and it was JFK that stoppd him from opposing the lend lease deal, if that had not gone through it is possible that Britain and the Soviets would have collapsed againt the Nazis. JFK had been in Germany in 1939 (I think) and was not impressed by what was going on unlike his elder brother.
 
I remember the 30th anniversary. Say that in 10 years we'll celebrate the 60th anniversary. :p

Kennedy had his qualities and might have been assassinated because of his plans to nationalize the banking system. The conspiracy around his assassination can't be denied. However I still think his policy overall negative (a bit like Moro in Italy).

He started the Vietnam War and he gave the green light for the first Ranch Hand operation in South Vietnam in 1961 (spreading of chemical agents, not yet Agent Orange, but still very efficient agents, Agent Purple or so), the consequences of which can still be felt today. When I'm writing these lines, thousands of babies in Vietnam are born with malformations due to Agent Orange !
 
Jun 22, 2009
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Susan Westemeyer said:
True, he is older than me.... :D

I believe that I am too, Susan.;) What a pleasure to see a post of yours!

I had just turned 15, and was spending the Friday evening sitting with some friends in the auditorium of my school, the American Int. School of Vienna, watching 'Son of Spartacus'. The door opened, someone turned the light on and said, 'Stop the movie, the president has been shot'.

We all stumbled out in ignorant disbelief, there were no real details with that first report. My friends and I all looked older than we were, so we had no trouble ordering beer at the nearest drinking establishment up the road, where everyone was standing in stunned silence, listening to Austrian radio. We got very drunk. We literally cried into our beer.

This famous Herblock cartoon from the Washington Post perfectly sums up the general feeling at the time.

Some good original stuff here - http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2013/11/15/four-shattering-days/?hpid=z1
 
Here's a quick trans. of a piece from the article I posted before by Vittorio Zucconi, Italian journalist and Washington corrispondent for la Reppubblica:

JFK: Young and powerful, the secrets of a universal myth.

Kennedy and Camelot was meant to have led one to believe, during the nearly 1000 days of his course in office, that wars were finally over, that the McCarthyist folly was forever consumed, that white, puritanical and protestant America had finally “passed the torch” to the most desperate of European immigrants: the Irish Catholics. And that a wisp of that Europe humiliated and destroyed by its own hands between two suicide wars, were to have also been transmitted to its conquerors-liberators, not only through Jack, but also Jackie, Jacqueline Bouvier, by her French blood, her taste for Euro-chic in the (fake) Chanel tailleurs and her regard for dress; following decades of dignified first ladies in outfits fit for Sunday ministers and gentlemen in their redingotes, or else jackets fit for retired generals.

We would only have discovered decades later, what truths were hidden behind the façade of the perfect couple: the disheveled sailor and the impeccable petit madam under the riding cap. One didn’t know at the time, even if one had supposed, that that smashing drunk “Norma Jean” who purred “Happy Birthday Mr. President” was in fact his and his brother’s lover, in a torpid love triangle. The journalists, closed in a complicit chauvinism of the times, had been ignoring, though secretly approving and certainly envying the salacious gossip, in a race around the White House desks to catch “Fiddle” and “Faddle,” the two secretaries that pretended to evade them. They silenced the love affair with Judith Campbell, the babe of Cosa Nostra, who was a bit lover, a bit courier between JFK and Sam Giancana - the godfather of Chicago who had strongly supported Kennedy against Nixon in November of 1960, earning for the city on the lake that famous expression: “Come to Chicago, the city were even the dead can vote.”
 
I was in the fifth grade, and our school was quite advanced, we actually had a tv in the classroom! Someone popped their head in the room and said, "The president has been shot!" The teacher quickly turned the tv on and there it was......

As I said, I was at his Inauguaral Parade (my grandfather marched in it, with the Arizona Mountain Men), and my brother and I always swore that JFK turned and waved to us.

In addition, he was roughly my father's age, and Jackie was roughly my mom's age. For some reason, I always associated my Dad and JFK. Other than the age, they had virtually nothing in common, though.

Susan
 
Vino attacks everyone said:
That said, can't say that I miss a man that almost got the whole world into a nuclear world war, but this is not the thread to discuss that.

This.

He's only famous because he was shot, if he were to be still alive he would be as unloved as Nixon.
 
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Just so long as no one posts that Zapruder film footage, the close up one in slow motion (extra high quality). It's a bit like watch the twin towers collapse over and over. Only the twin towers were more of a human tragedy as it involved ordinary people's lives, not corrupt egotistical dirty politicians.
 

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