Joeba Beloki runs the NYC marathon

[BroDeal]

His time: 2:53:57

Maybe he could have done even better if he would have had an entourage setting pace for him like a certain sad sack.

 

[Martin318is]

-- or if his hip wasn't held together with titanium...

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

His time: 2:53:57.

Not bad compared to Lance Armstrong's November 2007 time of 2 hours, 46 minutes, 43 seconds... titanium hip and all (USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2007-11-05-705941886_x.htm)

 

[la.margna]

Laurent Jalabert: 2h45’52" (Barcelona marathon)
Laurent Dufaux: 2h40’14" (Geneva marathon)

 

[The Devil]

Joeba Beloki - spelling correction - Joseba Beloki

 

[Daniel Benson]

Olano did 2.39:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/olano-topples-jalabert-and-armstrong-in-marathon

 

[The Devil]

Former T-mobile pro cyclist Rolf Aldag ran a 2:42:57 in the 2006 Hamburg Marathon.

 

[NashbarShorts]

Yes, but the real story is that coming into one of the aid stations, Beloki slipped on a gel packet and went down hard, breaking his hip and shattering his elbow.

In a show of true compassion and sportsmanship, Lance (who was handing out yellow gatorade) said, "Beloki was pretty squirrelly".

 

[buckwheat]

His time: 2:53:57

Maybe he could have done even better if he would have had an entourage setting pace for him like a certain sad sack.

Makes one think that his injuries weren't the only reason he retired from the peloton...

 

[TERMINATOR]

Makes one think that his injuries weren't the only reason he retired from the peloton...

Beloki was a major doper and his little femur break that caused Lance to do his off-road stunt is what happens when you supercharge an engine but keep the original suspension.

I could easily see Beloki coming back to NY and doing a sub 2:30 provided he scheduled a few gynecology appointments in the Canary Islands in the months leading up to the NYC marathon.

 

[jimmypop]

Watched that fall over and over. His (essentially) career-ending injuries are mind-boggling; it was a bad fall, but to have all of those bones shattered due to that fall? Vitamin D, anyone? Or is he just a slight, fragile guy to begin with?

 

[BroDeal]

Joeba Beloki - spelling correction - Joseba Beloki

D'oh. Stupid fingers. You cannot edit thread titles...

 

[Angliru]

Watched that fall over and over. His (essentially) career-ending injuries are mind-boggling; it was a bad fall, but to have all of those bones shattered due to that fall? Vitamin D, anyone? Or is he just a slight, fragile guy to begin with?

Aren't virtually all climbers fairly slight? Pantani I believe also broke his femur in a training accident earlier in his career, (hit by a car?). Beloki never came close to reaching that same level of performance after years of trying. I personally was rooting for him to make a triumphant return but unfortunately
it didn't happen.

 

[laziali]

That is really not that quick. I suspect the man did very little training.

 

[Le breton]

Watched that fall over and over. His (essentially) career-ending injuries are mind-boggling; it was a bad fall, but to have all of those bones shattered due to that fall? Vitamin D, anyone? Or is he just a slight, fragile guy to begin with?

To find out I would suggest you duplicate his fall.
Maybe you have never fallen a bike at high speed or seen other cyclists fall.
If you had you probably would realize that the consequences of a fall are determined by the details of the fall and not by the sturdiness of the cyclist.
Would you call Casartelli fragile?

 

[Le breton]

Beloki was a major doper and his little femur break that caused Lance to do his off-road stunt is what happens when you supercharge an engine but keep the original suspension.

I could easily see Beloki coming back to NY and doing a sub 2:30 provided he scheduled a few gynecology appointments in the Canary Islands in the months leading up to the NYC marathon.

When did you have a little femur break? How about shattered elbow and broken wrist?
You really are pretty ignorant about the effects of doping.
In the days of Rivière racers would take products such as palfium (opiate) that numbed their extremities I am told which would explain why Rivière was unable to use his brakes properly on Perjuret.
EPO (or blood doping), + HGH, + whatever top contenders were taking in 2003 would have no effect whatsoever on how fast they would go downhill or on their reactions.

I am also surprised that you are not aware that while blood doping + other "Canary treatment" could improve your time up a hypothetical 2h53min climb by as much as 10% or 17min, the effects on marathon racers would be far less as demonstrated by French marathon racer Benoit Z who only managed to improve his pre-doping times by about 4 min. ( You can also compare the best performances on the marathon pre-1990 (about 2h07) with the current record of 2:03:59)

 

[usedtobefast]

under 3 hours is a very good time for anyone. i came from a running background
and the idea of 42k for me is, not so much. half that is ok. but that is a long time at race pace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_record_progression

 

[NashbarShorts]

Watched that fall over and over. His (essentially) career-ending injuries are mind-boggling; it was a bad fall, but to have all of those bones shattered due to that fall? Vitamin D, anyone? Or is he just a slight, fragile guy to begin with?

From what I remember, his rearwheel slid sideways thru a patch of melted tar. Exiting the tar, the tire regrabbed asphalt and Beloki was flung hi-side. So he didn't just "go down" at 50mph.., he was essentially slingshotted to the ground at 50mph. That would mess up anybody's day pretty bad, skinny or not.

 

[BroDeal]

under 3 hours is a very good time for anyone. i came from a running background
and the idea of 42k for me is, not so much. half that is ok. but that is a long time at race pace.

Gotta go with this. Sub 3 is a good time. Not world class or anything, but a good time. I know pretty good runners who have been trying to go under three for long time. And these guys can kick my butt.

Aldag and Olano's times are really good.

 

[BroDeal]

under 3 hours is a very good time for anyone. i came from a running background
and the idea of 42k for me is, not so much. half that is ok. but that is a long time at race pace.

Gotta go with this. Sub 3 is a good time. Not world class or anything, but a good time. I know pretty good runners who have been trying to go under three for long time. And these guys can kick my butt.

Aldag and Olano's times are really good.

 

[tubularglue]

Let's stop kicking this guy when down

2000'

a pretty fit' time

 

[The Devil]

D'oh. Stupid fingers. You cannot edit thread titles...

Maybe cycling news should enable an option for the thread originator to edit the title if one incurs a Typo error. What do You think Cycling news?

 

[Le breton]

Laurent Jalabert: 2h45’52" (Barcelona marathon)
Laurent Dufaux: 2h40’14" (Geneva marathon)

Today
Daniel Atienza 2h35
1. Asfaw Tewodros Zewou 1980 ETH Ethiopie 2:19.25,5 ----- (6) 42-H2 1. 3.18
2. Seifu Terefe 1991 ETH Ethiopie 2:19.51,9 0.26,4 (15) 42-H1 1. 3.18
3. Begashaw Hailu 1984 ETH Ethiopie 2:25.12,2 5.46,7 (14) 42-H1 2. 3.26
4. Hillary Kipchumba Keino 1983 KEN KEN-Eldoret 2:26.33,4 7.07,9 (1) 42-H1 3. 3.28
5. Atienza Daniel 1974 SUI Moudon 2:35.37,0 16.11,5 (26) 42-H2 2. 3.41

The fact that he was not a big cycling star does not prevent him from doing better than Dufaux, Jalabert or even a seasoned triathlete like L.A.

 

[Zweistein]

Beloki was a major doper and his little femur break that caused Lance to do his off-road stunt is what happens when you supercharge an engine but keep the original suspension.

I could easily see Beloki coming back to NY and doing a sub 2:30 provided he scheduled a few gynecology appointments in the Canary Islands in the months leading up to the NYC marathon.

His tire blew and that has nothing to do with anything.

If you what to talk about someone who has done quite a bit of doping, there is a certain individual who was nicknamed cortisone neck in his triathlon days as a teen, who has yet to do anything when he came back to where he started in triathlons, which in comparison to pro-cycling has no dope control. Coincidentally, he also tested positive for cortisone at the 1999 tour de france but got out of it with a backdated prescription.