Jonas Vingegaard: Godzilla, the King of Monsters

[Rackham]

If Pog is fully recovered come the Pyrenees and he brings his A game there we'll fully understand how mutant this guy has gotten.

He'll progress from mutant to ghoul, i.e. Jonas Vingeghoul.

He's already physically starting to look like Rasmussen himself, i.e. which perhaps isn't so weird when his full name literally is "Jonas Vingegaard Rasmussen" (Jumbo were probably too... chicken to have him race under that name though).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547689438657986562

We'll see track accelerations between him & Pogacar in the Pyrenees, like Contador versus Rasmussen in 2007. Then he'll win the TdF (unlike their previous Rasmussen who wanted to hang himself after they booted him out) & become a hero in Denmark (like Riis, except with 0% of his charisma). All like a textbook convenient fairy-tale considering the TdF started in Denmark.

Sport often delivers perfect stories like that. People may believe if they wish to.

 

[pastronef]

I am not a Jumbo fan at all. I dislike WVA and co. but I find it unfair to say "Vingegaard has no personality, no charisma"
well he does not need that while racing. he did a great attack 2 days ago. that needs balls.

 

[SarahtheDane]

Moving the discussion to Jonas thread. @SarahtheDane @ahsoe



I haven't found anything but her LinkedIn. Looks like she's always worked for his career even on colo-Quick? Maybe what cyclist wives does, what do I know.

What about her personality?

They met at colo-Quick, where she was working.

 

[noob]

@ahsoe @SarahtheDane Thank you <3 I found Trine on Facebook now so it should be a good resource to read up on Jonas past career as well.

I also found an old interview about their relationship. Seems she's older than him?

 

[SarahtheDane]

@ahsoe @SarahtheDane Thank you <3 I found Trine on Facebook now so it should be a good resource to read up on Jonas past career as well.

I also found an old interview about their relationship. Seems she's older than him?

Yeah, I believe she is like 10 years older than him.

 

[Rackham]

I am not a Jumbo fan at all. I dislike WVA and co. but I find it unfair to say "Vingegaard has no personality, no charisma"
well he does not need that while racing. he did a great attack 2 days ago. that needs balls.

No balls, just watts.

Jumbo has their numbers & did what they had to do. When it came down to it, Vingegaard was the strongest. Like Rasmussen was in 2007.

 

[ahsoe]

No balls, just watts.

Jumbo has their numbers & did what they had to do. When it came down to it, Vingegaard was the strongest. Like Rasmussen was in 2007.

But again, that is no different from any other top class rider in recent years, Lance Armstrong, prime Contador, Nibali, Wiggins, Froome, Thomas, Roglic, Pogacar etc.

They won because they had the watts to drop their rivals. Other than nationality, I really don't see the specific need to shout 'Chicken' when discussing Vingegaard. He is no worse or better than the names mentioned above.

But again, this might be my soft spot as I am danish. I don't get the notion, that Riis or Michael Rasmussen or to take it outside Denmark, Contador or Froome are worse dopers than other dopers. And the Mr. 60% nickname is getting old. What about Ugrumov et. al. who pushed it just as far?

The real problem is that the system allows/cannot catch the cheaters.

 

[noob]

Btw "alpha mutant" is a seriously weird description of a small shy Dane whose facial features reminds me more of a monchichi doll.

(Wout though... )

 

[dazaau]

This thread seems lacking in detail. Jonas beat pogi and put three minutes into him. But it was on a massive mountain day in which pogacar was isolated and had to cover multiple attacks across multiple climbs. Jonas is clearly a climber - just look at him. And everyone was putting time into pogi, including gadu. Hardly "thermonuclear" stuff.

I know there is something fishy about him, but you've got it all wrong

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547283605424046080

View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547283605424046080

 

[noob]

When I look at how they have showed and described Jonas in the team he's actually a bit almost rebellious and uncontrollable, which was why they was afraid he wouldn't be able to cope last year. One of the DS last year interviewed on a mountain finish talked about how they needed to stop him as he wants to do too much.

Also he did beat his whole team on swift 2020. 35 minutes on the swift Adh

 

[roundabout]

For all the people talking about how his talent was always obvious I don't remember anyone actually attempting to explain why he was not in the original team for the 2021 Tour.

Also, super mutant today.

 

[Melo]

I think Vingego went from temp V to compound V. Dude should star in next season of The Boys, there's nothing remotely human about him. Chapeau!

 

[Mayomaniac]

I think Vingego went from temp V to compound V. Dude should star in next season of The Boys, there's nothing remotely human about him. Chapeau!

Him talking to some random French pct breakaway riders: "You guys are the real heroes!"

 

[Ripper]

This is simply awesome mutant warfare folks

 

[Netserk]

For all the people talking about how his talent was always obvious I don't remember anyone actually attempting to explain why he was not in the original team for the 2021 Tour.

I've mostly seen rebuttals to the notion that his rise was in the Froome category. There's a lot of ground between that and being an obvious Tour winner in the making.

The difference between him and Sastre is that Vingegaard is a mutant now.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Must have learned alternative ways for oxygen intake from his aquatic friends at the factory.
Nose breathing Pogi in what should be the Slovenians preferred terrain.

Apparently they came close to Pantani, Riis and Indurains record , almost under 9 minutes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548339023827021825

 

[PhiLiz]

I've mostly seen rebuttals to the notion that his rise was in the Froome category. There's a lot of ground between that and being an obvious Tour winner in the making.

Yeah, pretty much. It's not Dawg levels of pathetic (there aren't many on that level) but it's still a huge leap from being a decent prospect to the watts robot he's now.

 

[Cagalitroso]

I am curious to see who is going to be next year 'sudden mutant' ( from selling popcorn at the cinema to beating pog/viggo). 100% sure that his countrymen will find all kind of explanations for the metamorphosis.

 

[Eclipse]

Pog went thermonuclear but the ultimate cyborg didn't even seem like he was having to try to keep up lol. Looked like he could have ridden past at any moment. It's a shame he'll just ride the rest of the race defensively as we'll never know what output he could truly reach.

 

[Rackham]

Pog went thermonuclear but the ultimate cyborg didn't even seem like he was having to try to keep up lol. Looked like he could have ridden past at any moment. It's a shame he'll just ride the rest of the race defensively as we'll never know what output he could truly reach.

If only he was slightly more believable, this TdF could have been fun.

But by the looks of things Jumbo didn't even need to ambush Pogacar on Wednesday the way they did, i.e. Vingegaard simply looks stronger. For real.

I think without Pogacar blowing up the way he did we might have had a decent fight but right now, this TdF is totally over. I think Vingegaard can actually counter Pogacar on Hautacam & build an even larger gap before the ITT.

 

[Riek s]

Must have learned alternative ways for oxygen intake from his aquatic friends at the factory.
Nose breathing Pogi in what should be the Slovenians preferred terrain.

Apparently they came close to Pantani, Riis and Indurains record , almost under 9 minutes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548339023827021825

Some addition from that source;


@ammattipyoraily


#TDF2022, Stage 14 COTE DE LA CROIX NEUVE (3.03 km, 10.36 %, 314 m)
Tadej Pogacar and Jonas Vingegaard •
9 min 04 sec •
20.05 Kph •
VAM 2078 m/h •
7.2 W/kg (est.)



@ammattipyoraily

After watching Croix Neuve from the recording, consider it possible that they could have gone 7 seconds faster & break Marco Pantani's record time 8:58. Yes, everything is different between 1995&2022 except the climb details (distance, avg. %) & how many seconds are in a minute.

 

[Ripper]

Pog went thermonuclear but the ultimate cyborg didn't even seem like he was having to try to keep up lol. Looked like he could have ridden past at any moment. It's a shame he'll just ride the rest of the race defensively as we'll never know what output he could truly reach.

It would be interesting to know if that was just a poker face, or if he could have truly just ridden past. If the latter, then it was foolish not to put more time in. A small mishap, like a wipeout on a rainy day, and that lead will evaporate super quickly.

 

[noob]

It would be interesting to know if that was just a poker face, or if he could have truly just ridden past. If the latter, then it was foolish not to put more time in. A small mishap, like a wipeout on a rainy day, and that lead will evaporate super quickly.

I don't know what it's called in English, but some of the shots of Jonas back suggested at least at times he was quite tired. Also he was behind Pog all the way since Pog speeding, so Jonas didn't have to make as much effort as Pog. I don't think he could have gapped him today. I'd say Pog was a bit stronger today, since he did more work.

 

[noob]

Also they were moto paced the whole climb. I doubt Pantani was?

 

[Cagalitroso]

Also they were moto paced the whole climb. I doubt Pantani was?

lol