Jonas Vingegaard: Godzilla, the King of Monsters

[ontheroad]

lol his personality is actually a lot like Michael Rasmussen. it's actually refreshing compared to all of the fake nice guys we've had the past decade.

I do like a bit of honesty but from listening to his interview in English he didn't actually say anything much of note bar the usual cliches. Leaving aside talk of any possible chemical enhancements I'd love to see a bit of proper needle between him and Pogacar. Top level sport needs genuine rivalries and sometimes cycling does feel a bit too nice.

 

[PhiLiz]

The record he beat wasn't fast.

They broke it by like 2.5 minutes.

It wasn't and I agree that direct comparasion can't be made for the 90's but being around 6.4w/kg for Pogacar in a 27m effort I think my point stands regarding going quite hard on Azet. Particularly considering we're on stage 17 already.

 

[PhiLiz]

Maybe just watch what he actually said.

The tweet is about a "Danish interview" so I'm guessing not that one.

 

[Red Rick]

It wasn't and I agree that direct comparasion can't be made for the 90's but being around 6.4w/kg for Pogacar in a 27m effort I think my point stands regarding going quite hard on Azet. Particularly considering we're on stage 17 already.

I think the combination with fast Aspin and fast Hourquette is more significant than it being stage 17.

I also think there was a slight tailwind at least, Kuss did less than 5.91 as per Strava, drafted while being lighter than Pogacar and drafting less and only conceding less than 4% in time.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So super glue Jonas as reliable as ever. But guess what? He will attack Pogacar on Hautacam climb.

 

[PhiLiz]

I think the combination with fast Aspin and fast Hourquette is more significant than it being stage 17.

I also think there was a slight tailwind at least, Kuss did less than 5.91 as per Strava, drafted while being lighter than Pogacar and drafting less and only conceding less than 4% in time.

I find it pretty significant, it's been quite a hard Tour.

Anyway, it looks like Vingo finds 6.2w/kg (22:24m) on Peyragudes after the 6.4w/kg on Azet (26:24) "easy". Still very funny.

 

[Red Rick]

I find it pretty significant, it's been quite a hard Tour.

Anyway, it looks like Vingo finds 6.2w/kg (22:24m) on Peyragudes after the 6.4w/kg on Azet (26:24) "easy". Still very funny.

It's a ridiculous performance that does get overestimated in the numbers I think.

 

[Cookster15]

Vingo thinks today was easy on the last climb -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1549778981238472706

View: https://twitter.com/Ddozmoe/status/1549778981238472706?s=20&t=Sl52I1IifoN8p-0vGvmKFQ


Mind you, the second to last climb was ridden at a pace that beat a Pantani, Ullrich and Virenque record from 1997.
EDIT - that on and of itself doesn't say a lot since 1997 was a way harder stage. But Pogacar did 6.4w/kg so still ridden pretty hard.

Seems very cocky and again disrespectful. I just find Vingo impossible to like. Since the 2021 Tour a meteoric rise from obscurity to defeating the two time defending champ and now claiming it was "easy". Yes a ridiculous performance from the new alpha-mutant.

 

[Rackham]

Seems very cocky and again disrespectful. I just find Vingo impossible to like. Since the 2021 Tour a meteoric rise from obscurity to defeating the two time defending champ and now claiming it was "easy". Yes a ridiculous performance from the new alpha-mutant.

He's made me a Pogacar supporter.

Unthinkable a short while ago but here I am. Even Vingegaard's super glue trick is so annoying. It's like he's having a mini spasm whenever Pogacar attacks & tries to hump his rear wheel on a climb, flat or even a descent.

Nope, not my type of rider (add all the other stuff as well like his implausible rise, cardboard personality & ugly bike style as well).

 

[Cookster15]

Nope, not my type of rider (add all the other stuff as well like his implausible rise, cardboard personality & ugly bike style as well).

He reminds me very much of Michael Rasmussen and not just because he's Danish. My only hope is he has a Rasmussen TT like 2005.

 

[fbjim]

He hasn't tried to solo every mountain stage in a row yet so I object to this Rasmussen valor theft.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Rabobank vs Saunier Duval

 

[noob]

The tweet is about a "Danish interview" so I'm guessing not that one.

Yeah I know. I very much doubt he felt like today was an easy climb. Nor that Pog had fresh legs. If he has said that it's in a "which one is the blue jersey" state. No way he actually thought that. Not even on a monster dose epo would he feel it was an easy stage.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Maybe just watch what he actually said.

Maybe in his native language he sounded/meant it differently, but in this English language interview he sounded very well-balanced and respectful of the race and what's yet to come.

 

[noob]

Maybe in his native language he sounded/meant it differently, but in this English language interview he sounded very well-balanced and respectful of the race and what's yet to come.

Yeah or simply the Danish interviewer might have been exaggerated because of it being a Danish interview with a Danish cyclist in Danish media So exaggerated and a bit wishful thinking. Because if either of Pog or Jonas had no problem they would have attacked each other much more than they actually did

 

[Zen Master]

Yeah I know. I very much doubt he felt like today was an easy climb. Nor that Pog had fresh legs. If he has said that it's in a "which one is the blue jersey" state. No way he actually thought that. Not even on a monster dose epo would he feel it was an easy stage.

I found his interview in Danish (I seriously doubt that there is another one), and he didn’t say anything not even remotely similar to that. He actually said, that today was a mega hard day, that it was really hard to keep up, that when there were only three of them left it wasn’t because they got to that point easily. Of course he had hoped that he could win the stage, but the final climb suited Pogacar much better and that such an ending was a little too explosive for him. And then he added that it could probably have been a little bit harder, it's easy to just sit back and say that, but he doesn’t think that they (UAE) rode on the last climb as fast as on the penultimate climb, which was definitely the hardest for him.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Yeah or simply the Danish interviewer might have been exaggerated because of it being a Danish interview with a Danish cyclist in Danish media So exaggerated and a bit wishful thinking. Because if either of Pog or Jonas had no problem they would have attacked each other much more than they actually did

That, and him and Pogi high-fiving (or at least bro-hugging) each other after crossing the finish line says it all.

Tomorrow is another day.

 

[SafeBet]

It's a shame he's not showing us his real level (if what he said in the interview it's true).

 

[noob]

I found his interview in Danish (I seriously doubt that there is another one), and he didn’t say anything not even remotely similar to that. He actually said, that today was a mega hard day, that it was really hard to keep up, that when there were only three of them left it wasn’t because they got to that point easily. Of course he had hoped that he could win the stage, but the final climb suited Pogacar much better and that such an ending was a little too explosive for him. And then he added that it could probably have been a little bit harder, it's easy to just sit back and say that, but he doesn’t think that they (UAE) rode on the last climb as fast as on the penultimate climb, which was definitely the hardest for him.

@Zen Master Thank you that made a ton more sense than that ridiculous tweet by that Brian guy. Could you please link the Danish article?

 

[Blobs]

It's a shame he's not showing us his real level (if what he said in the interview it's true).

He didn't say it was easy. He said the final climb was a bit too explosive at the end for him to beat Pogacar, and that it would probably had been an advantage for him, if it had been ridden a bit harder, and that he felt it was harder on the penultimate climb. He didn't say anything about fresh legs.

 

[Riek s]

Seems like not breathing is the new marginal gains.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

They are actually just taking the p*ss. The Tour doesn't seem meaningful anymore , because 3 riders win all the stages.

 

[Lui98]

This is a tragedy

 

[BullsFan22]

A Danish man crushing the field on Hautacam, clinching the overall title. Where have I seen this before? At least he’s not bald or balding, I don’t think.

 

[Hombre]

When his back wheel jumped on that descent, I immediately thot of the WVA cyclocross clip from 2017.