Jonas Vingegaard Rasmussen, the new alpha mutant

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So Vingo made it clear. Time to close the whole clinic:

"I don't take anything, and I don't think that the rest of the peloton does either. Since I can win the Tour de France twice without taking anything, I also believe that everyone else doesn't take anything either."

Performance-optimized, artificial human doesn't have to dope.
Like we’ve seen in the past, journalists who want to maintain their personal access to athletes for information and quotes, will go easy on them. But Couldn’t some still have the integrity to say—without sarcasm, rancor, or judgment—“thanks for sharing that about yourself Mr.Vingegaard, but as far as the peloton goes 100 yrs of cycling history tells us otherwise. The preponderance of evidence indicates that there were and are always some riders in the peloton doping. The only real question is how many of them and how much.”
 
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I miss the old Clinic. a mistake (cause you can miss 3 tests) by the current double TDF winner and from the team winning everything in the season, would have been blown quite high 5-6 years ago. it's too quiet nowadays
It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well :)
 
It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well :)
You don’t know that. He could be threatened this would go public and wants to control the narrative. He could be under investigation and VLaB instructed him to come clean (again to control the narrative). On Monday, there was an article on wielerflits:
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/wada-maakt-zich-zorgen-om-nieuwe-vorm-van-bloeddoping/

Could be that something is cooking… I was not the least bit surprised he made a statement like that today and I don’t buy for one second he just remembered about that incident all of a sudden while completely forgetting about it when asked about doping during his TDF campaigns.
 
You don’t know that. He could be threatened this would go public and wants to control the narrative. He could be under investigation and VLaB instructed him to come clean (again to control the narrative). On Monday, there was an article on wielerflits:
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/wada-maakt-zich-zorgen-om-nieuwe-vorm-van-bloeddoping/

Could be that something is cooking… I was not the least bit surprised he made a statement like that today and I don’t buy for one second he just remembered about that incident all of a sudden while completely forgetting about it when asked about doping during his TDF campaigns.
He told it 8 days ago to a Danish newspaper...
Your imagination is running away with you. Or perhaps it is wishful thinking. Get ready to be dominated next year
 
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So Vingo made it clear. Time to close the whole clinic:

"I don't take anything, and I don't think that the rest of the peloton does either. Since I can win the Tour de France twice without taking anything, I also believe that everyone else doesn't take anything either."
"People ask me what I'm on. I'm on my bike six hours a day. What are you on?"
We've heard this shaite before.
 
You don’t know that. He could be threatened this would go public and wants to control the narrative. He could be under investigation and VLaB instructed him to come clean (again to control the narrative). On Monday, there was an article on wielerflits:
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/wada-maakt-zich-zorgen-om-nieuwe-vorm-van-bloeddoping/

Could be that something is cooking… I was not the least bit surprised he made a statement like that today and I don’t buy for one second he just remembered about that incident all of a sudden while completely forgetting about it when asked about doping during his TDF campaigns.
Your reaction is pretty much exactly what I meant. No matter what he says, the sceptics won't believe it anyway. Or, like you, they question the timing.

Yes, it could be that he's trying to stay ahead and revealing his sins before someone else does... but even then, if some journalist had said "Vingegaard missed a test in 2019", wouldn't the end result have been exactly the same?

Let me give another example: the team said that Vingegaard is so against using any type of substance, he doesn't even use ketones. But does this Clinic thread think that's a good thing? Of course not :) It makes him even more suspect. That's just how it goes.
 
He told it 8 days ago to a Danish newspaper...
Your imagination is running away with you. Or perhaps it is wishful thinking. Get ready to be dominated next year
To tell you the truth, I would prefer he’s clean. Even if I don’t like him. It’s really not in our best interest for cycling to be on a bad rep…

It’s just that I don’t think he just went on and mentioned that specific occurrence without a good reason. Why would he do that? I mean surely he must have thought it through and VLAB thought it through before saying it… You don’t just say “Oh and by the way, I missed a doping control test” without having thought it through.

I’m not saying he doped - I’m just saying that he probably was forced to say it as opposed to theyoungest who appears to believe he said it from the goodness of his heart…
 
Your reaction is pretty much exactly what I meant. No matter what he says, the sceptics won't believe it anyway. Or, like you, they question the timing.

Yes, it could be that he's trying to stay ahead and revealing his sins before someone else does... but even then, if some journalist had said "Vingegaard missed a test in 2019", wouldn't the end result have been exactly the same?

Let me give another example: the team said that Vingegaard is so against using any type of substance, he doesn't even use ketones. But does this Clinic thread think that's a good thing? Of course not :) It makes him even more suspect. That's just how it goes.
Ok but if the reason for him saying it now really is that he is so much against doping, why didn’t he mention this missed test during 2022 or 2023 TDF when asked about doping?
 
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Ok but if the reason for him saying it now really is that he is so much against doping, why didn’t he mention this missed test during 2022 or 2023 TDF when asked about doping?
The journalist from EkstraBladet asked him directly: "Have you ever missed a doping test?" I bet that's the first time anyone ever asked him that question, and why would he lie about it? It would have the potential to hurt him a lot more of he did. You then can think he wanted EkstraBladet to ask that question to come out with the 'news' for whatever reason, but that just confirms the point that there is no winning for Vingegaard. Skeptics will be skeptical.
It was a series of questions asked by the journalist btw, also "did you any weird experience with doping tests?" and "are you or have you ever been embarrassed by these tests?" and a few more questions about doping tests, how they are carried out etc
 
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wow!!!!!! i cant believe jonas vingegaard is doping!!!!!! i thought he was clean this whole time. so shocking.
not saying he's doping. au contraire, 1 missed test means nothing. I was just noticing The Clinic misses the old members who would go on rants about this or that rider at any occasion. that atmosphere is gone forever. the vitriol and obsession are long gone souvenirs. just that
 
It's a missed test from 2019. And it's Vingegaard who brought it up, nobody forced him to. That's different to certain other riders and teams. However I think he might as well just not say anything, because as you can see in the reactions in this thread, it doesn't really matter what you say, and it doesn't really matter how many times you're tested, the sceptics won't believe you anyway. So what's the point. Which is kind of what he's trying to say as well :)

not saying he's doping. au contraire, 1 missed test means nothing. I was just noticing The Clinic misses the old members who would go on rants about this or that rider at any occasion. that atmosphere is gone forever. the vitriol and obsession are long gone souvenirs. just that