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Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Butterfly Effect

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He doesn't expect Wout to ride the Tour next year. Kuss to play a similar role in the Tour as usual, but he will probably be the captain in the Vuelta as the defending champion.

It was only after Angliru that they were told to ride for Kuss to win, before that they were all told to race for the title, which bothered Vingegaard.

Det blev besluttet efter Angliru. Det var en god ting, at det blev besluttet, at vi ikke skulle køre om det, men jeg synes, at den skulle være taget før, den beslutning.

It was decided after Angliru. It was a good thing that it was decided that we weren't going to race it, but I think that decision should have been made sooner.
 
Something I wondered about too ... Roglic, Van Aert, Van Hooydonck gone and Kuss's new role -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...s-plus-the-retirement-of-nathan-van-hooydonck

This new role as a plan-B, backup general classification challenger for Kuss means that Jumbo-Visma could see similar infighting as happened at the Vuelta a Espana this year. "I don't think I'll lose him as the main uphill servant, but we need to talk about it," Vingegaard explains. "It may be that Sepp has wishes, but we have to look at how we have the best chance of winning the Tour. If that's me, we'll ride for me. But it can also be done in a different way."

However, it's the loss of van Aert and van Hooydonck from the Tour de France lineup of Jumbo-Visma that really concerns Vingegaard. "Wout's big goal is probably the Giro next year, and then probably the Olympic Games, I can imagine. The course in Paris suits him very well, which may be the reason why he did not want to ride the Tour de France," Vingegaard says of van Aert.
 
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Something I wondered about too ... Roglic, Van Aert, Van Hooydonck gone and Kuss's new role -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...s-plus-the-retirement-of-nathan-van-hooydonck
Is it a new role for Kuss?


They also kept him in the GC this year and at the Giro and Adam Yates had similar role for UAE.

Wout is a monster and it will be felt if he isn't there monstering it up. But something can also be said for having dedicated all doms to one goal the entire tour so they don't spend a lot of energy on Mads Pedersen stages unless Pogi is in the break.

Hooydonck has been immense, especially in Vingegaards first win I think he was really important.
But he isn't the only big guy in Jumbo's arsenal.

But Jumbo has some pretty strong riders that wasn't even close to getting into the Tour squad.
 
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If Wout v A does the Giro and hops over the Tour for the Olympics, then he'll be missed on like, the first two stages and the gravel one. He's been often sent up the road too in hilly stages. If Remco, Roglic & Pogacar are all doing the Tour, it'll be a real headache making sure the break is no danger.

Kuss seems to be the "Adam Yates" at Visma - protected rider, as they say, at the Tour and probably Kuss and Vingegaard doing the Vuelta with both as "team leaders".
 
So the Vingegaards have decided to relocate to the more affluent part of Europe ("a billionaire in every home!"), namely Switzerland. Apparently he & the rest of the family are moving to Ticino (near Mads Pedersen's abode) but will also get somewhere near in France (I imagine the Swiss authorities are willing to turn a blind eye to a certain extent, but there are standards to be maintained after all ... income above a certain level and be able to parle one of the 4 languages etc.).
see -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-easier-jonas-vingegaard-moves-to-switzerland
 
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So the Vingegaards have decided to relocate to the more affluent part of Europe ("a billionaire in every home!"), namely Switzerland. Apparently he & the rest of the family are moving to Ticino (near Mads Pedersen's abode) but will also get somewhere near in France (I imagine the Swiss authorities are willing to turn a blind eye to a certain extent, but there are standards to be maintained after all ... income above a certain level and be able to parle one of the 4 languages etc.).
see -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-easier-jonas-vingegaard-moves-to-switzerland
He will be even more stronger in the mountains moving to swittzerland. Now, he can train if they want, everyday in the mountains. Certainly Visma can plan better trainings for him in switzerland.
 
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Was he even home a lot the past year? I would think he was mostly on altitude anyway
Maybe he did 2 or 3 altitude training camps before the Tour.

He was certainly at home between the tour and the vuelta. Maybe he could had done a even better preparation if he lived in switzerland before the vuelta.

If Visma wanted this move, probably they think he can have more benefits in terms of training.
 
"more"?
By those brainfarts calling him "skeletor" I presume?

I dislike Jumbo, but somehow, as a Froome fan, I can't dislike Vingegaard 8I wished he'd win the Vuelta and not Kuss). and tbf Jumbo and him are not getting a very hard time on here and twitter. the golden years of the Clinic are gone. his "skeletor" name is almost cute. the 2015-2018 wild years of the Clinic are gone. Jumbo can sleep tight
 
I don't get the point of yet another renewal. In the spring he extended until the end of 2027, now again until the end of 2028.

We'll probably hear what his program will be at the team presentation, I think he'll do P-N & Catalunya before the Ardennes, but I'd rather see him do a fully Spanish spring with Andalucia, Catalunya & Itzulia.
 
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I don't get the point of yet another renewal. In the spring he extended until the end of 2027, now again until the end of 2028.

We'll probably hear what his program will be at the team presentation, I think he'll do P-N & Catalunya before the Ardennes, but I'd rather see him do a fully Spanish spring with Andalucia, Catalunya & Itzulia.
Maybe to increase his salary.
 
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