Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Extinction]

Giro is free for Jonas, his closest GC threat is Pellizzari who isn't on par with Jonas ability. NOW here are the question marks, will he make it exciting for the fans??? Will he attack or play it super safe????

If I'm his DS I will circle 6 stages (6, 9, 14, 16, 19, 20) he can easily win, and for those that say but the TOUR, what about the TOUR? he will not win the Tour why? because he isn't close to Pogacar numbers and will podium Tour regardless if he races hard or takes it easy in the Giro.

If he isn't able to destroy Pogacar as in 22, 23, apart from the attenuating circumstances, at least we can hope he can give him a go. Otherwise, the Tour will be a bore, unless Seixas has a response. I fear, however, that you are all too right.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Guys, what stage 6? Blockhaus is stage 7.

He's a cobbles specialist now so the final in Napoli is right in his wheelhouse.

 

[Rob5091]

He's a cobbles specialist now so the final in Napoli is right in his wheelhouse.

There's one Cat 4 lump with about 100 km to go, so maybe Vingegaard will go full Pogi and ride off solo to the finish ... or he'll save himself for stage 7. I'm guessing the later.

 

[AmRacer]

On Blockhaus, Jonas will send earth 616 to another universe.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

On Blockhaus, Jonas will send earth 616 to another universe.

Yeah, tomorrow should be a very hard training day for Jonas: over half an hour of upper Z4 at the end of a 240 km long training ride. The goal is surely to build a solid gap and just control his efforts (as Tour build-up) later in the race.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Yeah, tomorrow should be a very hard training day for Jonas: over half an hour of upper Z4 at the end of a 240 km long training ride. The goal is surely to build a solid gap and just control his efforts (as Tour build-up) later in the race.

So he‘ll ride 100k before tomorrow‘s Stage and go solo? Because tomorrow is Stage 6 which still isn‘t the Blockhaus stage as you‘ll know

 

[Tim Cahill]

I think today was far more entertaining than Visma control and 50k solo 2 minutes up the road.

The fewer stages they get involved in the better, yesterday was really good too.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So he‘ll ride 100k before tomorrow‘s Stage and go solo? Because tomorrow is Stage 6 which still isn‘t the Blockhaus stage as you‘ll know

Damn, waiting for Blockhous is too long. I meant obviously that stage and forgot there's still a snoozefest tomorrow.

 

[Netserk]

I think today was far more entertaining than Visma control and 50k solo 2 minutes up the road.

The fewer stages they get involved in the better, yesterday was really good too.

the first hour was really good today and they were plenty involved

 

[Samu Cuenca]

He'll ride Blockhaus for fun tomorrow and then for real on Friday.

 

[pelotonIQ]

I'm looking at this Giro and comparing watts and previous performances of Vingegaard and Pellizzari in hopes of finding something that will convince me this Giro will be competitive for entertainments sake but no there is nothing. This is a free Giro for the Dane. I found an interesting Tour statistic, Jonas raced the Tour 5 times (won it twice) and he only has won 4 stages, maybe because Pogi is taking them but I think for the caliber of rider Jonas is, he should have more.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Sometimes i feel Jonas & Tadej are dodging each other outside the Tour.
I know it's probably just a feeling. But these 2 rarely clash outside the Tour.

 

[Netserk]

Sometimes i feel Jonas & Tadej are dodging each other outside the Tour.
I know it's probably just a feeling. But these 2 rarely clash outside the Tour.

where would they meet if they didnt dodge each other

 

[KoopaCycling]

where would they meet if they didnt dodge each other

Giro, Vuelta, one week stage races, Lombardi, EC, WC RR

 

[Netserk]

Giro, Vuelta, one week stage races, Lombardi, EC, WC RR

theyd do all three gts each year ????

realistically , where would they meet this year

 

[Rou]

On Blockhaus, Jonas will send earth 616 to another universe.

If anything I've learned to not have any crazy expectations.
Some people also expected Pogacar to do 2000 VAM and put 2 minutes on Lipo on Romandie stage 1 but instead we got Pogacar 1.0 there.

 

[canina82]

Sometimes i feel Jonas & Tadej are dodging each other outside the Tour.
I know it's probably just a feeling. But these 2 rarely clash outside the Tour.

Pogacar prefers to race classics. Jonas doesn't race classics. It's not dodging at all, they just have different priorities.

 

[Red Rick]

It's still my hot take if you send Vingegaard to Tirreno you can put him in MSR after with no taks other than to follow on Cipressa and just suckwheel all the way to the finish

 

[canina82]

It's still my hot take if you send Vingegaard to Tirreno you can put him in MSR after with no taks other than to follow on Cipressa and just suckwheel all the way to the finish

For what? To satisfy your needs and "ego"? What would Vingegaard gain with that?

 

[Gratemans]

Pogacar prefers to race classics. Jonas doesn't race classics. It's not dodging at all, they just have different priorities.

This was my first thought as well. And it's partly true: Pog focusses on the classics, so naturally their season will differ vastly just because of that and they won't encounter eachother that much.

But Koopa's post got me thinking: when it comes to prep races for the GT's they never seem to face eachother either. And that's where I think race organisers / managers / UCI / ASO come into play.
The both of them not starting at those races leaves fans in the dark a bit as to where they both stand exactly form-wise, with a GT coming up. Which results in more anticipation and excitement -> eg. more people tune into the broadcasts.
When it comes to the big prep-races like Dauphine, P-N, Romandie, Suisse etc. it's just best for all parties involved to spread both of them (and thus money and attention) around across all races.

What I certainly don't believe is that any one is scared of the other. BS like that comes along way too often. It's to their mutual benefit and they're professionals. Those theories are just childish "my dad can beat up your dad"-like fanboy fantasies.

 

[canina82]

This was my first thought as well. And it's partly true: Pog focusses on the classics, so naturally their season will differ vastly just because of that and they won't encounter eachother that much.

But Koopa's post got me thinking: when it comes to prep races for the GT's they never seem to face eachother either. And that's where I think race organisers / managers / UCI / ASO come into play.
The both of them not starting at those races leaves fans in the dark a bit as to where they both stand exactly form-wise, with a GT coming up. Which results in more anticipation and excitement -> eg. more people tune into the broadcasts.
When it comes to the big prep-races like Dauphine, P-N, Romandie, Suisse etc. it's just best for all parties involved to spread both of them (and thus money and attention) around across all races.

2025
Prep races: Dauphiné

2024
No prep races, just the Tour. Their schedule was different (Giro-Tour for Pogacar so he did the traditional prep race for the Giro. Catalunya)

2023
PN
Pogacar broke his hand. Maybe he could have challenge Vingegaard in the Dauphiné.

2022
TA

What are people expecting from this rivalry? A h2h in every race? It's impossible since Pogacar prefers to target classics instead of winning one week stage races.

 

[Gratemans]

2025
Prep races: Dauphiné

2024
No prep races, just the Tour. Their schedule was different (Giro-Tour for Pogacar so he did the traditional prep race for the Giro. Catalunya)

2023
PN
Pogacar broke his hand. Maybe he could have challenge Vingegaard in the Dauphiné.

2022
TA

What are people expecting from this rivalry? A h2h in every race? It's impossible since Pogacar prefers to target classics instead of winning one week stage races.

Yes. I agree with you. I was just saying that when the opportunity for them does arise to be in the same (prep)race, it wouldn't really benifit anyone if they did both participate.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Not a coincidence Jonas and Visma always wait until Pogacar publishes his program before they publish theirs. Happened last couple seasons afaik.

 

[AmRacer]

Not a coincidence Jonas and Visma always wait until Pogacar publishes his program before they publish theirs. Happened last couple seasons afaik.

Next season, Jonas will do the last couple of one-weeks he hasn't won yet. Pogi won't race them.

 

[Netserk]

But Koopa's post got me thinking: when it comes to prep races for the GT's they never seem to face eachother either. And that's where I think race organisers / managers / UCI / ASO come into play.

the most recent opportunity was in 2022 for june , and im pretty sure pogi didnt consider vingegaard specifically then