The problem with these crashes is sometimes a rider can be 100% a month later and sometimes it takes a whole career down. Too hard to know right out the gate. Cramps in a race can cause a single missed pedal stroke or a DNF. There’s still too little info out there.
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I assume likely not racing for GC and instead try to win stages. If neither Wout or Jonas will be ready then indeed it will be interesting to see on what strategy Visma will choose. Natural selection would indeed likely be Kuss and a team in support of his GC aspirations.
I feel that Jonas will highly likely be just fine, after a while and will fully recover, somehow i doubt such time frame can be squeezed in till the Tour.
I was going off the idea they seemed to actually be going for GC with him in the Giro and I could see him theoretically getting on the podium in a perfect Tour. Seems weird for them to be reduced to stage hunters and green jersey candidate after last few years.
For GC in my opinion Wout would need to climb better and if he wants to climb better then he needs to drop some weight. Likely we are talking about somewhere in the range of 10kg. If he does that then he is not the Wout we know any more and who knows on how successful he would be after. The way he is now we know he can win stages at the Tour or any other GT.
They may as well take Kooij along with VWA who are a deadly combination.
My opinion is based on similar cases that happened in the past (across multiple sports). There were cases where it took longer for athletes to come back but those are the exception.
I also think his team doesn't want to put any pressure on his return. So why would they out of nowhere started saying they have high hopes he could be at 100% for the tour? IMO they wouldn't be saying that unless they are certian he can make it (barring unforeseen setbacks).
Only time will tell.
According to danish media he got on the hometrainer on precisely the 29th of April. That’s is much later than expected. I now doubt his TDF.
Don’t worry, we’ve been told repeatedly he’ll be there and only has to be in 70% shape to win as it’s just the final week that’s important.
He can attack in the third week.Don’t worry, we’ve been told repeatedly he’ll be there and only has to be in 70% shape to win as it’s just the final week that’s important.
They never said what the team plan. But we all fairly well decided he is not a GC rider and maybe was riding for appearance fee, days in pink, and possibly the points classification jersey
86 days before the Tour: Crash, broken ribs and punctured lung, hospitalisation in ICU.
74 days before the Tour: Leaves hospital.
61 days before the Tour: First day on a home-trainer.
53 days before the Tour: First day training outside in Denmark.
Status now, 45 days before the Tour: Lungs are perhaps still not fully recovered, still in pain, limited training volume. Not yet ready for altitude camps.
74 days before the Tour: Leaves hospital.
61 days before the Tour: First day on a home-trainer.
53 days before the Tour: First day training outside in Denmark.
Status now, 45 days before the Tour: Lungs are perhaps still not fully recovered, still in pain, limited training volume. Not yet ready for altitude camps.
So you’re saying there’s a chance
From another article posted recently in this thread: his coach is worried about reduced oxygen uptake and muscles strength. The Tour participation seems only a PR stunt at the moment.
I just hope they don't try something stupid and let him recover in peace.
But the way his recovery seems to go, I highly doubt he'll show up at the tour.
But the way his recovery seems to go, I highly doubt he'll show up at the tour.
~"No worse injuries than when Pogi broke his wrist last year and could train two days after."
I think some of his fans might have gotten a little too carried away last week & assumed Vingegaard riding a bike = Vingegaard riding the TdF.
It's also a side effect of the otherworldly performances Vingegaard is associated with, i.e. people expect way, way too much - especially miracles.
It's also a side effect of the otherworldly performances Vingegaard is associated with, i.e. people expect way, way too much - especially miracles.
I tried to indicate that my post was a sarcastic paraphrase. I do not really believe that the two injuries are similar.
Yes, Vingegaard's injuries were way more serious than Pogacar suffered and the clock is ticking. For a grand tour contender these injuries would make it borderline impossible to be ready for the TdF - as @Krzysztof_O posted. Reading the above, I'd be surprised if he starts the TdF, even the Vuelta must be in doubt now.
Recovering from day to day stage racing efforts has absolutely zero equivalence to the human body recovering from the physical trauma that Vingegaard suffered. They are completely different things. Plus, no two injuries are the same.
Obviously Visma are doing PR. If I was a fan my position would be assume Vingegaard is out of the TdF and if he can make it its a bonus.
Recovering from day to day stage racing efforts has absolutely zero equivalence to the human body recovering from the physical trauma that Vingegaard suffered. They are completely different things. Plus, no two injuries are the same.
Obviously Visma are doing PR. If I was a fan my position would be assume Vingegaard is out of the TdF and if he can make it its a bonus.
Are those types of recovery really different? What scientific basis is there for this statement?
I reckon that anyone with high levels of anabolic hormones, such as an average 18 year old male, say, will recover from either traumatic injury or excessive exercise faster than someone with lower levels, such as an average 80 yo man.
It should not require explaining. If you can find a link to any reputable medical opinion (not Visma PR) that suggests otherwise feel free to share.
You posted an irrelevant comparison between recovery rates of old and young then suggest I don't understand? The onus is on your position not mine.
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