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Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

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No Vuelta? No Pogacar either? Lots of really random uphill sprints in an anonymous Spanish backalley?

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If Vinge partakes, my bet is that he is in for a lesser but still prominent pogacar dynamic from last year. In other words, no level to put up a fight against the best, but will fade nevertheless as the race goes on.

Anything else would be quite surprising all things considered.
 
If Vinge partakes, my bet is that he is in for a lesser but still prominent pogacar dynamic from last year. In other words, no level to put up a fight against the best, but will fade nevertheless as the race goes on.

Anything else would be quite surprising all things considered.
I don't think Pogacar faded last year. He just had a bad day due some issues, especially because against Vingegaard is a like a war if attrition.
 
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I don't think Pogacar faded last year. He just had a bad day due some issues, especially because against Vingegaard is a like a war if attrition.

It could be both. From St Gervais stage on Pogacar clearly lacked the punch to (at least temporarily) drop Vingo and lost lots of time: this could indicate fading (after 2-weeks of war against Vingo). Loze was a disaster (likely other external factors contributing there, which doesn't completely exclude fading factor)
 
It could be both. From St Gervais stage on Pogacar clearly lacked the punch to (at least temporarily) drop Vingo and lost lots of time: this could indicate fading (after 2-weeks of war against Vingo). Loze was a disaster (likely other external factors contributing there, which doesn't completely exclude fading factor)
They pushed big numbers on Saint Gervais, probably was Vingegaard who improved a bit since the previous day.

I believe more the problem on La Loze was mentally after what happened on the previous day, plus stomach issues, plus the crash in the beggining of the stage, plus the war of attrition after 2 weeks and half where he was pushed to the limit, because Pogacar recovers well but not as much as Vingegaard.

If we put the version of Pogacar of the Tour 2023 in the Giro 2024, he would had won with the same or big gap to the rest of the field.
 
They pushed big numbers on Saint Gervais, probably was Vingegaard who improved a bit since the previous day.

I believe more the problem on La Loze was mentally after what happened on the previous day, plus stomach issues, plus the crash in the beggining of the stage, plus the war of attrition after 2 weeks and half where he was pushed to the limit, because Pogacar recovers well but not as much as Vingegaard.

If we put the version of Pogacar of the Tour 2023 in the Giro 2024, he would had won with the same or big gap to the rest of the field.

Well, you said it yourself. War of attrition against Vingo was a factor contributing to Pogacar fading. As for Giro vs Tour, Pogacar form looked similar in those two races - except in the Giro Pogacar didn't have to go deep as much as in the Tour obviously (and also avoided Loze collapse).
 
Well, you said it yourself. War of attrition against Vingo was a factor contributing to Pogacar fading. As for Giro vs Tour, Pogacar form looked similar in those two races - except in the Giro Pogacar didn't have to go deep as much as in the Tour obviously (and also avoided Loze collapse).
The fact he was already better on Vosges, i think also indicates it wasn't something due to that.

My point is, in the Giro he didn't had to go to a war of attrition, so he didn't faded. Like you said "he didn't had to go deep". And on Joux Plane for example, Pogacar went really deep, doing probably one of his best perfomances ever.

If we look at the gaps on La loze and in the ITT, everybody was absolutely dead in the third week.
 
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I was following the French campaign for the next elections (June 30 and July 7). well my newfound cheering for the RN (ressemblement national, right wing) is like my newfound cheering for Visma (thanks to Jorgenson) and Vingegaard. I disliked them. now they have a great chance to go against all odds. Jumbo-Jorg-Vingo to rise and win the TDF. and the RN rise and win the elections.
ok I got a bit carried away, but the Tour is coming ahah
 
I was following the French campaign for the next elections (June 30 and July 7). well my newfound cheering for the RN (ressemblement national, right wing) is like my newfound cheering for Visma (thanks to Jorgenson) and Vingegaard. I disliked them. now they have a great chance to go against all odds. Jumbo-Jorg-Vingo to rise and win the TDF. and the RN rise and win the elections.
ok I got a bit carried away, but the Tour is coming ahah
I don't think the Tour will be as entertaining as the other sideshow.
 
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No Vuelta for JV - "family reasons"
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/jonas-vingegaard-will-not-race-vuelta-a-espana-tour-de-france-likely-the-only-option-for-a-grand-tour-in-2024
His presence is not certain at the French Grand Tour, but if he does not race there it is unlikely that he will be racing a three-week race in 2024 as the Vuelta a España is apparently out of the plans.

This has been reported by Het Laatste Nieuws this morning. The Belgian news outlet has argued that Vingegaard's presence in the Vuelta is at risk due to family circumstances. It is not clear what this may be. "As a result, he would only have a Grand Tour in his legs this year if he rode the Tour."
Original article https://www.hln.be/tour-de-france/o...our-deelname-van-aert-en-vingegaard~a60c38b5/
He will do Volta a Portugal instead of La Vuelta.

He is in the peak of his career, it's the time to win at Senhora da Graça and beat the record of Raul Alarcon.

If he does the double Tour+Volta a Portugal, he will be the new GOAT.

I don't expect less than doing Senhora da Graca in <20 minutes.