Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[Froome]

Time to recover mentally and physically, including his previous muscle mass.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The real reason he wants to win Tour de Pologne:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1824834411889566033

I've just seen the photo for the first time, love it! Vingo with some symbols of Polish mountains culture (ciupaga, czapka). Normally maybe I would've been there on muritos near Bukovina (I trek in Tatry mountains regularly) but I had a car trip towards the Arctic!

 

[tobydawq]

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Apparently, he has expressed a wish to do the Giro next year. No decision taken.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

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Apparently, he has expressed a wish to do the Giro next year. No decision taken.

If it happens the Giro organizers will be happy but it will completely kill the race suspence, the way Teddy's participation did. Unless...both of them decide for the double!

 

[Peyroteo94]

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Apparently, he has expressed a wish to do the Giro next year. No decision taken.

I knew it! I really have a strange feeling about Vingegaard doing Giro-Tour next year. After seeing Pogacar be so good in the Tour, I know Vingegaard can win the Giro with one leg and be ready to challenge Pogacar in the Tour.

 

[Sybrand]

It would be great if Pogi and Vingo both do the Giro-Tour double. The Vuelta can wait another year for Pogi.

 

[Berniece]

Vingegaard doing Giro-Tour
Pogacar Tour-Vuelta

Without crashes or illness, we already know the winners of the 3 GT's

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard doing Giro-Tour
Pogacar Tour-Vuelta

Without crashes or illness, we already know the winners of the 3 GT's

We said the same last year, be careful

 

[Berniece]

We said the same last year, be careful

I said without crashes or illness. I'm not sure Pogacar would've won the TDF if Vingegaard had optimal preparation. It would've been much closer at least.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I don't know to be honest, Jonas having such freedom? IMHO for Visma is now all about the Tour and Jonas being their only option. So i will be surprised if he ends up doing a Giro. We'll see.

 

[Red Rick]

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Apparently, he has expressed a wish to do the Giro next year. No decision taken.

Would be either the best or the worst thing to happen

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I said without crashes or illness. I'm not sure Pogacar would've won the TDF if Vingegaard had optimal preparation. It would've been much closer at least.

It would. Anyway, we dont know the name of TdF winner next year as there are two big candidates.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

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Apparently, he has expressed a wish to do the Giro next year. No decision taken.

Hooray, a fourth rancid Giro in a row (assuming Pogacar isn't there) beckons. As I've said before, for every time the happy few do battle there are three where there's only one of them there and the race is a formality. That tradeoff is not worth it at all.

 

[Froome]

I don't know to be honest, Jonas having such freedom? IMHO for Visma is now all about the Tour and Jonas being their only option. So i will be surprised if he ends up doing a Giro. We'll see.

Things changed. Now, i guess, the Giro can be a perfect preparation for the Tour. It may well happen.

 

[Squire]

Hooray, a fourth rancid Giro in a row (assuming Pogacar isn't there) beckons. As I've said before, for every time the happy few do battle there are three where there's only one of them there and the race is a formality. That tradeoff is not worth it at all.

Why can't they all just target the Tour like normal people and we get a full-on battle without any asterisks for sub-optimal preparation and suchlike?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Things changed. Now, i guess, the Giro can be a perfect preparation for the Tour. It may well happen.

I personally will be surprised if Jonas will get the freedom to do the Giro in 2025.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Things changed. Now, i guess, the Giro can be a perfect preparation for the Tour. It may well happen.

Any maybe RCS throws enough money at both him at Pogacar...

 

[tobydawq]

Hooray, a fourth rancid Giro in a row (assuming Pogacar isn't there) beckons. As I've said before, for every time the happy few do battle there are three where there's only one of them there and the race is a formality. That tradeoff is not worth it at all.

So should we kill them?

 

[hayneplane]

It would be great if Pogi and Vingo both do the Giro-Tour double. The Vuelta can wait another year for Pogi.

The double-double would be epic and if they battered each other to a standstill the rest of the field would have some kind of chance to fight for the win in the Tour afterwards.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

So should we kill them?

Nah, putting a nice big dose of steroids in their food should hopefully be enough to remove them from the scene for at least a few years.

 

[dazaau]

I knew it! I really have a strange feeling about Vingegaard doing Giro-Tour next year. After seeing Pogacar be so good in the Tour, I know Vingegaard can win the Giro with one leg and be ready to challenge Pogacar in the Tour.

IMHO this won't end the way it did for Pog. Jonas is a more fragile rider than Pogacar. Jonas is amazing but tends to peak for specific events and then not be so stellar.

I think he is already going to have a fight on his hands for the tour, and going to the giro puts that in jeopardy.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Any maybe RCS throws enough money at both him at Pogacar...

Those Albanian Leks have to be used on something. However, I'm not sure Vingegaard will be willing to ride the Giro if Pogačar is going to be there as well.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Things changed. Now, i guess, the Giro can be a perfect preparation for the Tour. It may well happen.

Isn't he afraid of Pogacar and he is trying to win the Giro to his season not being a failure? How times change.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I hope we get peak shape remco in the giro with Landa as support against vignegard.

And then in the tour peak shape Roglic ( unlikely) and vignegard against pogacar

I don't want another giro with one mutant putting 10 minutes to g Thomas and o'connor . The giro is the most beautiful and mythical stage race in our sport. It's reputation is going down the drain the past few years due to awful editions.

 

[theyoungest]

IMHO this won't end the way it did for Pog. Jonas is a more fragile rider than Pogacar. Jonas is amazing but tends to peak for specific events and then not be so stellar.

I think he is already going to have a fight on his hands for the tour, and going to the giro puts that in jeopardy.

This is demonstrably false, since just last year he rode both the Tour and the Vuelta and could easily have won both. Vingegaard is not a fragile rider, rather the opposite: his strength is his consistency and his stamina. He looks fragile, that much is true.

For Pogi I think the Giro was clearly an extended training camp for the Tour, and it obviously worked. Something similar could happen for Vingegaard. But Giro or no Giro, I think we'll see a better Vingegaard in the Tour next year, purely because he'll have a way better base as a result from not being in the hospital two months prior to the race.