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Very true on both descending examples. That TT win in the Tour was also an example of superior recon; he was pretty certain he was taking the right line.
When Pogi slid out he was on the front of sketchy pavement and Jonas had the advance warning to chill out. The decision to sit on Pogi was the wise move in that case.
Visma boss on Vingegaard: He must find a way to improve
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How did Jonas improve in the 2024 season? If Pogi would still to improve, how would that even look like? IMHO both reached their peaks and now the goal will be to reach the same peak again and again in seasons to come. Biggest obstacles being potential injures or lack of dedication or motivation.
numbers, numbers, nummmmmmb. Fixate on winning whether the victor rode as slowly as they ever have or faster. It's racing, not Zwift.
He did.
IMHO not really. My comment went more in the direction that relatively speaking it would be hard to suggest Jonas was an improved version of Jonas from the past. In my opinion he wasn't, mainly due to getting injured prior to the Tour. Visma suggesting he was best Jonas ever, BS. Pogi already dominated a Tour edition or two in the past, so lack of any injuries and hard dedication and motivation enabled him to peak, again. Last year he got injured and hence couldn't peak.
Well if you don't believe them, then obviously you don't see a YoY improvement. I do believe them.
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obv its correct numbers nevr lie. Its just people telling themself what they wanne know he never was better but its still not even remotely close enough and also Evenepoel is lurking and will soon surpass him aswell.
I don't believe them, claiming that this was the best version of Jonas, compared to all Tour editions he did. It's simply not possible, due to the extent of injuries he obtained.
Or the reason could be discussed in another forum.
It was the best Vingegaard ever however I think Vingegaard would be better without any injuries.
All of you claiming on how this was the best version of Jonas ever, you somehow got a rather short memory. It doesn't even come close. The only thing i was impressed about is when he decided to close the gap in between Rogla and Pogi. Still, he paid for that effort later on.
So no, this was not the best version of Jonas. This was more of an impressive comeback from the injures, at best. More than most expected, peak Jonas? Get real.
So no, this was not the best version of Jonas. This was more of an impressive comeback from the injures, at best. More than most expected, peak Jonas? Get real.
It wasn't the best Vingegaard ever.
Do you saw his body? He was super light, he couldn't achieve best weight because he also lost a lot of mass muscle. How can you be in the best shape ever in a situation like that?
He had a lot of trouble in the descends and flats sections, because of that. He also lost a lot of explosion.
He just did in one moment a super watts perfomance, on plateau de beille, but it doesn’t mean he achieved the best shape he could achieve.
In terms of average watts in all climbs, he wasn't better than in the previous year.
When you see everybody getting better due to clinical issues, a guy like Landa improving 5% comparing with the previous year, we can easily make the conclusion, Vingegaard couldn't achieve a better shape due the injuries he had.
Plateau de beille doesn't mean he was in the best shape he could be.
He still did a miracle because of the talent, persistence and clinical things.
Do you saw his body? He was super light, he couldn't achieve best weight because he also lost a lot of mass muscle. How can you be in the best shape ever in a situation like that?
He had a lot of trouble in the descends and flats sections, because of that. He also lost a lot of explosion.
He just did in one moment a super watts perfomance, on plateau de beille, but it doesn’t mean he achieved the best shape he could achieve.
In terms of average watts in all climbs, he wasn't better than in the previous year.
When you see everybody getting better due to clinical issues, a guy like Landa improving 5% comparing with the previous year, we can easily make the conclusion, Vingegaard couldn't achieve a better shape due the injuries he had.
Plateau de beille doesn't mean he was in the best shape he could be.
He still did a miracle because of the talent, persistence and clinical things.
The gap between Pogacar and Vingegaard will be much smaller next year. Take it to the bank. The Tour will be 💥. Roglic and Remco will fight it out for third.
I think you're right. Let's just hope they can all start free of injuries.
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