Jumbo - QuickStep merger

[joseph89]

Because the UCI keeps everything hidden like late payments of rider's salaries and non pa

This is exactly what people should be worried about and the absolute dictation of the schedule.. If Arab backing is at 3 teams the UCI won't say so but they would become a pseudo Arab agency.. UCI and others having little to say about recent rider salary issues came to light.
My big question will be if Cervelo has the horsepower to stay as bike sponsor or Specialized just out spends them for the exposure.. Really shows how far Trek has fallen ..another weird twist is what a possible @2 million crank set recall will do to Shimano as a company and sponsorship money. I also own Shimano fishing equipment which I have found outstanding over years of use..

"This autumn, Richard Plugge will come up with a plan for reforming cycling. That plan will be the result of a long thought exercise that he has made with, among others, Bessel Kok, the Dutch chairman of the cycling team Soudal Quick-Step. The intention is for professional teams to become less dependent on sponsors. That the rat race in the search for sponsors must be stopped."

“Waar zit de winst?”: onze chef wielrennen stelt zich vragen bij het fusieverhaal

Komt er in het wielrennen een megafusie? Jumbo-Visma praat in ieder geval met Soudal Quick-Step over een scenario waarbij de twee teams één ploeg zullen vormen. Of het zover komt en hoe het dan concreet in zijn werk zou moeten gaan, dat is nog afwachten. Feit is dat het verhaal onze chef...

www.hln.be

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706363795478634683

View: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1706363795478634683?t=KLYJPtTG2zp9MU933nbJ2Q&s=19

 

[Samamba]

Mail from Lefevere to personal and riders.

"Please keep this confidential" lmao

 

[Gigs_98]

Mail from Lefevere to personal and riders.

"Please keep this confidential" lmao

What's the source for this?

 

[Unchained]

Don't want to say this to be flip but it's not a lot of money for even the top tier sponsorship @10-20 million dollars is not a ton of loot for Royal family members that spend that much on ski and summer homes. Surely contracts by Messi, Reynaldo and many athletes show the obscurity of bike racing, recent tennis and golf prize money payments for a single event dorf the yearly budget for many squads. The TV revenue model in cycling is broken, can't be followed on the Internet or TV for casual fan or person faintly interested. AOC and UCI holding the sport back w 1940s marketing. If you made football, cricket, or basketball this hard to watch and follow a team the sports games would be dead. I can easily follow European football ( soccer) in the US or Mexico w a couple of payments to easy to find subscription services.. Being nowhere near Europe, Australia I can find out what a famous rugby or footballer had for breakfast or what car they drove to what restaurant after practice or a match. This whole thing about bike racing being an acquired taste is dumb. AOC and UCI should make it easier to follow along.. Great example is this twilight tours for Sagan and Cavendish..NFL and NBA are trying to grow fan base in other countries.. have games in Europe or Mexico and cycling is struggling with getting a bus repainted to say Quickstep or whatever some oil sheik decides the team will be called. Total Energies and Astana are seen as stable? With oil near $100 a barrel and mining and minerals at all time high demands worldwide cycling maybe is just lucky.. Makes me angry at how backwater everything is because of old, outdated business model and infrastructure..

 

[joseph89]

Mail from Lefevere to personal and riders.

"Please keep this confidential" lmao

Great example of how to release a statement to the press without releasing a statement too the press.

 

[Samamba]

What's the source for this?

Saw it Nieuwsblad, but original is GCN I think

 

[Salvarani]

Great example of how to release a statement to the press without releasing a statement too the press.

There was probably a second mail that went out, that said:

"Okay, so about that last mail. Can anyone screenshot it and leak that for us now? So everyone thinks we are in control.

Thanks

/ Pat"

 

[Rackham]

Mail from Lefevere to personal and riders.

"Please keep this confidential" lmao

This has "we're still aiming to win races this season so don't get distracted" vibes.

Honestly the moment this totally outlandish, crazy merger wasn't immediately rebuked with laughter & derision, is probably the moment we realized it could be happening.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

What's the source for this?

Remco, I mean Samamba

 

[Unchained]

Remco's father has his I told you so statement ready to send out

 

[Mayomaniac]

Not a fan of it, but then I realized that we might get Jumbo Landa (as a gc leader for the Giro)...

 

[Bolder]

Don't want to say this to be flip but it's not a lot of money for even the top tier sponsorship @10-20 million dollars is not a ton of loot for Royal family members that spend that much on ski and summer homes. Surely contracts by Messi, Reynaldo and many athletes show the obscurity of bike racing, recent tennis and golf prize money payments for a single event dorf the yearly budget for many squads. The TV revenue model in cycling is broken, can't be followed on the Internet or TV for casual fan or person faintly interested. AOC and UCI holding the sport back w 1940s marketing. If you made football, cricket, or basketball this hard to watch and follow a team the sports games would be dead. I can easily follow European football ( soccer) in the US or Mexico w a couple of payments to easy to find subscription services.. Being nowhere near Europe, Australia I can find out what a famous rugby or footballer had for breakfast or what car they drove to what restaurant after practice or a match. This whole thing about bike racing being an acquired taste is dumb. AOC and UCI should make it easier to follow along.. Great example is this twilight tours for Sagan and Cavendish..NFL and NBA are trying to grow fan base in other countries.. have games in Europe or Mexico and cycling is struggling with getting a bus repainted to say Quickstep or whatever some oil sheik decides the team will be called. Total Energies and Astana are seen as stable? With oil near $100 a barrel and mining and minerals at all time high demands worldwide cycling maybe is just lucky.. Makes me angry at how backwater everything is because of old, outdated business model and infrastructure..

If the alternative is the current international football setup, then I want no part of it. I love the throwback parts of cycling, like the fact that it's the only sport still contested on public roads (except for distance running etc but that doesn't count)

 

[theyoungest]

Mail from Lefevere to personal and riders.

"Please keep this confidential" lmao

If I'm Lefevere, I word this email slightly differently everytime, so I immediately know who the leak is

 

[theyoungest]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706363795478634683

View: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1706363795478634683?t=KLYJPtTG2zp9MU933nbJ2Q&s=19

The Netherlands' favourite sport? Not even close. That's part of the problem why they can't find a sponsor

Unless Tim Cook is interested.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Patrick's computer must have been hacked.

 

[Panda Claws]

I for one am NOT happy about this development and I hope the bozo's in charge will take these considerations into account before they dive headfirst into an ill-advised venture.

 

[stekelegel]

Let’s be honest, beside Remco, which qs rider would be an asset ? Asgreen? Any others?

 

[Panda Claws]

Let’s be honest, beside Remco, which qs rider would be an asset ? Asgreen? Any others?

More like Assgreen

 

[awavey]

Don't want to say this to be flip but it's not a lot of money for even the top tier sponsorship @10-20 million dollars is not a ton of loot for Royal family members that spend that much on ski and summer homes. Surely contracts by Messi, Reynaldo and many athletes show the obscurity of bike racing, recent tennis and golf prize money payments for a single event dorf the yearly budget for many squads. The TV revenue model in cycling is broken, can't be followed on the Internet or TV for casual fan or person faintly interested. AOC and UCI holding the sport back w 1940s marketing. If you made football, cricket, or basketball this hard to watch and follow a team the sports games would be dead. I can easily follow European football ( soccer) in the US or Mexico w a couple of payments to easy to find subscription services.. Being nowhere near Europe, Australia I can find out what a famous rugby or footballer had for breakfast or what car they drove to what restaurant after practice or a match. This whole thing about bike racing being an acquired taste is dumb. AOC and UCI should make it easier to follow along.. Great example is this twilight tours for Sagan and Cavendish..NFL and NBA are trying to grow fan base in other countries.. have games in Europe or Mexico and cycling is struggling with getting a bus repainted to say Quickstep or whatever some oil sheik decides the team will be called. Total Energies and Astana are seen as stable? With oil near $100 a barrel and mining and minerals at all time high demands worldwide cycling maybe is just lucky.. Makes me angry at how backwater everything is because of old, outdated business model and infrastructure..

do you know how difficult it used to be to follow bike races even a decade ago, let alone 20-30 years back ? the only race that even appeared on tv was TdF, and it was highlights, if you wanted to follow the womens races even as recently as 2012 you had to hope a team employed someone who understood social media, and could tweet stuff about the race, or you read about it a week later if someone bothered to write it up.

this is a golden age of access compared to what it was, I can watch races on my phone, I can follow live coverage online, riders are posting what they had for breakfast online, some are even making jokey ASMR videos now.

you think cycling can pull in the kinds of viewing figures that football can ? that FIFA claim half the population of the world watch its world cup.

most of footballs finances are just some ridiculous ponzi scheme that only supports itself continuing, because if it failed it would bring the whole damn sport down and theres too much invested to let it fail, so they just keep extending the money pit.

cycling doesnt need to copy that kind of setup. 10-20million is a lot of money for alot of sports.

 

[pman]

do you know how difficult it used to be to follow bike races even a decade ago, let alone 20-30 years back ? the only race that even appeared on tv was TdF, and it was highlights, if you wanted to follow the womens races even as recently as 2012 you had to hope a team employed someone who understood social media, and could tweet stuff about the race, or you read about it a week later if someone bothered to write it up.

this is a golden age of access compared to what it was, I can watch races on my phone, I can follow live coverage online, riders are posting what they had for breakfast online, some are even making jokey ASMR videos now.

you think cycling can pull in the kinds of viewing figures that football can ? that FIFA claim half the population of the world watch its world cup.

most of footballs finances are just some ridiculous ponzi scheme that only supports itself continuing, because if it failed it would bring the whole damn sport down and theres too much invested to let it fail, so they just keep extending the money pit.

cycling doesnt need to copy that kind of setup. 10-20million is a lot of money for alot of sports.

This is a phenomenal point. Unless you grew up in Europe, the thought of watching 100 plus races a decade ago was insane. Now you guys criticize for me not watching the Tour of the Basque Country. That's how far we've come in terms of access in this sport. If you don't watch the Basque race in March or April, you're not a fan,lol.

 

[Escarabajo]

Let’s be honest, beside Remco, which qs rider would be an asset ? Asgreen? Any others?

Maybe Van Wilder?

 

[Izzyeviel]

whats the point in merging with SQS if Remco is off to Ineos?

 

[Hugh Januss]

whats the point in merging with SQS if Remco is off to Ineos?

Money?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

whats the point in merging with SQS if Remco is off to Ineos?

For QS: Bakala and Lefevre want a way out.
For Jumbo: Securing Soudal as a sponsor.

 

[pastronef]

Has Jumbo told TJV that they are going to withdraw their financial obligations for 2024?

if Plugge finds a sponsor for 2024 they'd gladly get out

ps. I see many people talk of Plugge wanting the merger to get Remco, and about what Remco would do in the merged team.
I think Remco will not stay there. he is contracted with Soudal, their WT license will fold and he'll leave. no way Specialized and Remco will stay with Plugge