Jumbo - QuickStep merger

[Lequack]

‘Trainer of Wout of Aert may also leave Jumbo-Visma’​

BORA-hansgrohe not only seems to take Primo Rogli? away from Jumbo-Visma. The Latest News reports today that the German formation is also busy with the arrival of coach Marc Lamberts. The Belgian has been Roglic’s personal coach at Jumbo-Visma for a long time, but also of Wout van Aert.

'Trainer Wout van Aert mogelijk ook weg bij Jumbo-Visma'

BORA-hansgrohe lijkt niet alleen Primož Roglič weg te halen bij Jumbo-Visma. Het Laatste Nieuws meldt vandaag dat de Duitse formatie ook bezig is met de komst van trainer Marc Lamberts. De Belg is bij Jumbo-Visma al lange tijd de persoonlijke coach van Roglic, maar ook van Wout van Aert. Op 24...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[tobydawq]

Why not 28 minutes then ? Or 29? More time lost must mean more time to recover right?

BS

Lol

 

[pastronef]

This article here paints a dire picture of Jumbo´s situation. Maybe they told Plugge they would have trouble funding JV in 2024 already?

Is this popular Dutch supermarket about to go bankrupt? | DutchReview

After a difficult year, a popular Dutch supermarket is struggling to make ends meet. Now, they've come up with a plan.

dutchreview.com

 

[theyoungest]

This article here paints a dire picture of Jumbo´s situation. Maybe they told Plugge they would have trouble funding JV in 2024 already?

Is this popular Dutch supermarket about to go bankrupt? | DutchReview

After a difficult year, a popular Dutch supermarket is struggling to make ends meet. Now, they've come up with a plan.

dutchreview.com

You really want this team to go down, don't you? Haha. I don't quite understand why, but haters are gonna hate.

This article is a few months old, and the news article it's based on doesn't mention bankruptcy at all. Just that they're growing less than they're used to. These supermarket chains have all had huge revenues during the pandemic, because there wasn't any competition anymore. Now it's back to relatively normal.

 

[pastronef]

You really want this team to go down, don't you? Haha. I don't quite understand why, but haters are gonna hate.

This article is a few months old, and the news article it's based on doesn't mention bankruptcy at all. Just that they're growing less than they're used to. These supermarket chains have all had huge revenues during the pandemic, because there wasn't any competition anymore. Now it's back to relatively normal.

no I don't. I just saw that piece a few minutes ago on twitter. I argued so much with ppl who wantd Sky to go down, it was all they wanted in their cycling life.
I'd be an hypocrite to hope for the same for Jumbo while I fought those dickheads when they wished the same for Sky. I'm not fan at all, but it's never good if a team shuts down

ps. the "This article here paints a dire picture of Jumbo´s situation. Maybe they told Plugge they would have trouble funding JV in 2024 already?" is quote from twitter, I didn't write it

 

[Filippo_3467]

Bora - replacement for Nils

I don't think Asgreen also fits in the budget. But they have still room in their squad and were heavily linked to Lamperti through the season. It could be that they pick up talent or some helpers to Cerny, Huby, Warlop... With Mullen, Koch and Benedetti signed they have now a few domestiques more but I think there is still room as they probably want to stretch their leaders in different one week races and you have to fill a lot of line-ups then.

 

[Big Doopie]

Tbf, Remco and Vingegaard turned pro in the same year

What has that got to do with anything?

 

[OlavEH]

Don't exactly understand why you think UAE would be "stupid"?
He would become their obvious captain for all the cobbled classics, provided Pogacar does not ride. He would be an upgrade to a Trentin who is over the hill but still servicable as his No 2.

Bahrain would be a slightly different dynamic with Mohoric and Wright in the mix, but it would be quite a good trio for cobbled and hilly classics.

UAE has a really star-studded team and even though Asgreen might have been their main cobbles rider, this will probably be a secondary objective for them compared to escpecially GTs but also hilly classics.

And regarding Bahrain, he and Mohoric share much of the similar strengths, and might target much of the same races and ride in about the same way. I think it will be easier to attack early and having VdP or Pedersen to neutralize the other riders if he were a team mate with one of them.

And I course despise both teams, but that is another topic.

 

[Netserk]

ps. the "This article here paints a dire picture of Jumbo´s situation. Maybe they told Plugge they would have trouble funding JV in 2024 already?" is quote from twitter, I didn't write it

Here you did:

This article here paints a dire picture of Jumbo´s situation. Maybe they told Plugge they would have trouble funding JV in 2024 already?

 

[pastronef]

Here you did:

I quoted this tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1709294021548372029

View: https://twitter.com/CyclingEve/status/1709294021548372029

 

[Lequack]

Good article about the whole thing

Merger Breakdown: Jumbo-Visma/Soudal Quick-Step Superteam - PezCycling News

The world of professional cycling has been thrown into disarray with reports that a merger between two of the sport’s top teams, Jumbo-Visma and Soudal Quick-Step, is imminent and will be in place before the 2024 season. Spencer Martin gives us his breakdown on the big merger story.

pezcyclingnews.com

 

[CyclistAbi]

Realistically, i feel that no team can afford Rogla, Jonas, van Aert and Evenepoel all riding for them. On top of having all other quality riders. It's just too much, financially. And then from the sport side of things. We'll see soon on how Jonas, Remco and Kuss and Wilco will do in GT's in 2024 season. If riding for the same team. Will that prove to be an advantage or not. For example when at the Tour Remco gains an advantage in ITT and then Jonas attacks him on the first real climb. Will they still win together or move more in Movistar type of perfection. And who exactly will be happy with it. Hum.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

‘Trainer of Wout of Aert may also leave Jumbo-Visma’​

BORA-hansgrohe not only seems to take Primo Rogli? away from Jumbo-Visma. The Latest News reports today that the German formation is also busy with the arrival of coach Marc Lamberts. The Belgian has been Roglic’s personal coach at Jumbo-Visma for a long time, but also of Wout van Aert.

'Trainer Wout van Aert mogelijk ook weg bij Jumbo-Visma'

BORA-hansgrohe lijkt niet alleen Primož Roglič weg te halen bij Jumbo-Visma. Het Laatste Nieuws meldt vandaag dat de Duitse formatie ook bezig is met de komst van trainer Marc Lamberts. De Belg is bij Jumbo-Visma al lange tijd de persoonlijke coach van Roglic, maar ook van Wout van Aert. Op 24...

www.wielerflits.nl

Now he'll probably get Tim Heemskerk as a trainer, which means he'll win the Tour one day.

 

[Boehmand]

You really want this team to go down, don't you? Haha. I don't quite understand why, but haters are gonna hate.

This article is a few months old, and the news article it's based on doesn't mention bankruptcy at all. Just that they're growing less than they're used to. These supermarket chains have all had huge revenues during the pandemic, because there wasn't any competition anymore. Now it's back to relatively normal.

Weird take.

He is supplying relevant information in a non-hateful way.

 

[Netserk]

I quoted this tweet

No, you didn't quote it. You copied it and then wrote it here.

 

[ManicJack]

Good article about the whole thing

Merger Breakdown: Jumbo-Visma/Soudal Quick-Step Superteam - PezCycling News

The world of professional cycling has been thrown into disarray with reports that a merger between two of the sport’s top teams, Jumbo-Visma and Soudal Quick-Step, is imminent and will be in place before the 2024 season. Spencer Martin gives us his breakdown on the big merger story.

pezcyclingnews.com

Best line for the whole article full of asterisks and speculation:

"My best advice for anyone watching this with their head spinning is to sit back, enjoy the madness, and don’t believe anything you hear until the riders and teams involved release official statements (or until they show up to the season-opening Tour Down Under in January)."

Martin sure thinks he knows a lot.

 

[joseph89]

Patrick Lefevere is working on a 'shelter team' for victims of takeover

Welke renners? En waarom is het voor Lefevere een erezaak? De belangrijkste vragen over mogelijke ‘opvangploeg’

Patrick Lefevere maakt, bij de gratie van Zdenek Bakala, werk van een ‘opvangteam’ voor renners en personeel die straks niet terecht kunnen in de nieuwe Visma-structuur. Een positieve oplossing voor dát deel van de ploeg wenkt dus. Maar er ligt nog een pak werk op de plank.

www.hln.be

 

[houtdffan]

Patrick Lefevere is working on a 'shelter team' for victims of takeover

Welke renners? En waarom is het voor Lefevere een erezaak? De belangrijkste vragen over mogelijke ‘opvangploeg’

Patrick Lefevere maakt, bij de gratie van Zdenek Bakala, werk van een ‘opvangteam’ voor renners en personeel die straks niet terecht kunnen in de nieuwe Visma-structuur. Een positieve oplossing voor dát deel van de ploeg wenkt dus. Maar er ligt nog een pak werk op de plank.

www.hln.be

huh?

so Remco could in theory stay with Lefevre?

 

[proffate]

Why not 28 minutes then ? Or 29? More time lost must mean more time to recover right?

BS

Because there's a time limit, professor

 

[Netserk]

huh?

so Remco could in theory stay with Lefevre?

If the shelter team is the continuation of QS, it would mean that Evenepoel can't transfer to Ineos. Either stay with the team or transfer to Jumbo.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Patrick Lefevere is working on a 'shelter team' for victims of takeover

Welke renners? En waarom is het voor Lefevere een erezaak? De belangrijkste vragen over mogelijke ‘opvangploeg’

Patrick Lefevere maakt, bij de gratie van Zdenek Bakala, werk van een ‘opvangteam’ voor renners en personeel die straks niet terecht kunnen in de nieuwe Visma-structuur. Een positieve oplossing voor dát deel van de ploeg wenkt dus. Maar er ligt nog een pak werk op de plank.

www.hln.be

Let me guess the team will be named Saint Patrick?

 

[laarsland]

Let me guess the team will be named Saint Patrick?

Team Women Who Return Home After Domestic Abuse, I think he’ll call it based on previous statements.

 

[Salvarani]

Patrick Lefevere is working on a 'shelter team' for victims of takeover

Welke renners? En waarom is het voor Lefevere een erezaak? De belangrijkste vragen over mogelijke ‘opvangploeg’

Patrick Lefevere maakt, bij de gratie van Zdenek Bakala, werk van een ‘opvangteam’ voor renners en personeel die straks niet terecht kunnen in de nieuwe Visma-structuur. Een positieve oplossing voor dát deel van de ploeg wenkt dus. Maar er ligt nog een pak werk op de plank.

www.hln.be

 

[joseph89]

I can see it working, a shelter team for 2024 maybe 2025. Gives riders and staff time to find a place somewhere else.

If it happens they should name the team "The Wolfpack"

 

[CyclistAbi]

Unfortunately such legal moves, new entity and signing a new contract, that usually leads to imminent employee contract termination without much compensation involved. So i would be careful with signing for this new team, would likely first exhaust the legal options in regards to current contract.