Kimmage on Wiggins, Sky

[sniper]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...g-demons--Paul-Kimmage.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

[Caruut]

Glad someone's paying him to write. It's a good article, and it raises a lot of the questions people have been raising here.

Brailsford's explanation that the hiring of Leinders was because of the death of Txema González was possibly one of the most pathetic excuses I have ever read.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

So Wiggins had the same decision to be made as Ullrich had. Either stop working in his job, or "do all it takes" and get rich... Well, he decided for the money. I don´t blame both of them, b/c i would have made the same decision.

But that doesn´t excuse his alleged doping.

... From anti doping speech to Bernhard-Kohl-like-alibi-speech. What a metamorphosis. Just another sad cycling story.

I am more suspicious about him than ever.

 

[thamask]

Great article.

 

[the asian]

Kimmange writes sense as usual. Sky have never addressed the issues raised, have violated their own starting policies and telling us to believe them because they are a British team along with the usual BS uttered by USPS years' ago.
Funny how they have offered a contact to Rogers, but refused one to Millar in 2009.
At least the once caught guy will be careful, but the lucky dodgy are more likely to continue their old habits with impunity.

 

[hrotha]

Glad someone's paying him to write. It's a good article, and it raises a lot of the questions people have been raising here.

Brailsford's explanation that the hiring of Leinders was because of the death of Txema González was possibly one of the most pathetic excuses I have ever read.

Agreed, that was disgusting. Not to mention the reasoning only made sense if Txema died as a direct result of employing unexperienced doping doctors.

 

[oldcrank]

Can we expect another book by Kimmage in the shops
before Christmas?

 

[UlleGigo]

Yeah this is all for his own selfish gain just like that vendetta he had against Armstrong for all those years that never came to anything.. oh wait.

 

[Escarabajo]

Great article.

The story almost sounds like the smoking gun that fans are looking for. There is really no explanation for such a dramatic change unless you are ...

 

[Darryl Webster]

Great article by Paul. The guy loves the sport and knows his stuff.
Most every other cycling journalist is a full payed up omerta holder or blind fanboy.

 

[sniper]

brief reminder of another very decent and critical article on Wiggo and Sky that came out yesterday by Tom English of the Scotland on Sunday. Was posted in the Sky thread yesterday so some may have missed it:

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on...candals-that-have-dogged-this-sport-1-2426229

 

[UlleGigo]

Yep. Kimmage demands respect. Anyone that wants to question his motives or character should do so in the knowledge that there is an enormous chance they will be the ones with egg on their face when its all said and done, not Kimmage.

 

[BotanyBay]

And I remember a mutual bromance coming back from Lance in post-race interviews. My guess? Sounds like Lance hooked him up.

 

[UlleGigo]

And I remember a mutual bromance coming back from Lance in post-race interviews. My guess? Sounds like Lance hooked him up.

Seriously?

Have you heard the expression 'as thick as theifs'? That's more likely the reason Wiggins was suddenly LA's little lapdog.

 

[Sigmund]

I wonder whether we read the same article? I thought is was very good, well written, measured and raising some important issues on which Sky's management and it's star riders should be questioned. But in no way am I drawing the conclusion that's being drawn here.

 

[UlleGigo]

The article.. raises some important issues on which Sky's management and it's star riders should be questioned.

Importantly it raises some questions that Sky refuse to answer. That's alright though its only the overarching message of the entire article that Sky have became alot less open as their results have become alot more questionable. I presume you missed that bit in your haste to stick your head back in the sand?

 

[veganrob]

I wonder whether we read the same article? I thought is was very good, well written, measured and raising some important issues on which Sky's management and it's star riders should be questioned. But in no way am I drawing the conclusion that's being drawn here.

There have been no conclusions drawn from anybody here from the article. It is fair and balanced, not accusatory in any manner. What is to complain about.
He is merely pointing out some facts and asking people to think.
NOthing wrong with that, right.

 

[VO2 Max]

brief reminder of another very decent and critical article on Wiggo and Sky that came out yesterday by Tom English of the Scotland on Sunday. Was posted in the Sky thread yesterday so some may have missed it:

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on...candals-that-have-dogged-this-sport-1-2426229

Thanks for reposting that, I missed it in the mass of stuff on the Sky thread. I loved this comment underneath:
"This article however is spiteful and attempts to implicate the Sky Team and Wiggins with drug use. Similar innuendos were thrown at Lance Armstrong."

Anyone here claim credit for that one?

 

[Sigmund]

Importantly it raises some questions that Sky refuse to answer. That's alright though its only the overarching message of the entire article that Sky have became alot less open as their results have become alot more questionable. I presume you missed that bit in your haste to stick your head back in the sand?

Why so hostile?

I read the article, liked it, and agree with what Imthought was the thrust of it. The fact that Sky should be more transparent and that they should live up to their own ideals. By not doing that they are not helping to further clean cycling.

I guess you see what you want to see. Me personally, I just wanted to point out that the article can be interpreted in different ways and that my interpretation was different from most of the previous posters.

Based on this you go all holier than though on me, Interesting debating technique, I must say.

 

[UlleGigo]

Why so hostile?

Not being hostile. You're welcome to your obliviousness.

 

[Inquitus]

Given every winner since Lemond has almost certainly been doped, with the possible exceptions of Cadel and Wiggins, its very easy to make the assumption they too are doped, highly unfair, but human nature all the same.

 

[Forunculo]

The faster Bradley pedalled, the less we heard from the angry young man we loved

Brutal sentence

 

[BotanyBay]

Seriously?

Have you heard the expression 'as thick as theifs'? That's more likely the reason Wiggins was suddenly LA's little lapdog.

Lance getting friendly with Wiggo makes no sense. After all, Wiggo "Spit in the soup. The sport that pays him".

What is the reason again? I didn't quite catch your meaning.

 

[doperhopper]

"In his autobiography, In Pursuit of Glory..."

oh boy, the fuehrer W already published his Mein Kampf in 2009, being already a WWI (trackie) veteran hit by a poisonous gas

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Seriously?

Have you heard the expression 'as thick as theifs'? That's more likely the reason Wiggins was suddenly LA's little lapdog.

Yep. I think you are correct here.