Lance in 30 years

[Basecase]

So can Lance and his pending confession mean he can evolve his life to the same degree as David Millar?

Picture the scene:

Lance now worth approx $130m.

SCA, TDF, Sunday Times etc want say $20m anyway.

He confesses and say another $40m taken from him - leaving him with $50-60m.

In a few months he can return to triathlon. He can also become involved in cancer charity work again.

In 2-3 years his doping will be overlooked .....

He can continue both as long as he wants - potentially doing "cancer" appearances / advocacy for another 30 years.

 

[Echoes]

Hopefully in 30 years, idiots will no longer start threads about him on CN and he'll be forgotten by anybody.

Which should've been the case for 7 years now.

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

Or...

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[DirtyWorks]

In a few months he can return to triathlon.

Let's pretend for a minute the IOC forgives the sociopath. It might happen. I'm interested to see if bigger promoters with IOC blessed federation as the sanctioning body will pay the guy more than once sufficient to begin to cover his ongoing, massive, legal bills.

He can also become involved in cancer charity work again.

What was the cause again? I could never figure that part out. When I bought the exercise bike, was all the extra money I paid contributed to cancer research? Explain this to me.

In 2-3 years his doping will be overlooked .....

There is no doubt his situation will be forgotten. None. But, like Pete Rose, and Madhoff and others he's forever tainted. People won't know the exact details why, but the stain will never come out.

We know, for sure, the guy cannot stay away from the limelight. How that ends up working out will be interesting.

 

[Benotti69]

With the amount of PEDs the guy has done, if he is alive i will be surprised!

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

In a few months he can return to triathlon. He can also become involved in cancer charity work again.

In 2-3 years his doping will be overlooked .....

He can continue both as long as he wants - potentially doing "cancer" appearances / advocacy for another 30 years.

How on earth does he "return to triathlon" "in a few months" if no sanctioned event will have him? He's banned for life. The most thorough confession to USADA -- the specifics of when, where, how, who -- might get his suspension dropped to 8 years.

The Oprah interview, at best, might yield a week's worth of small donations to LiveStrong. Then it will dry up again. Wealthy people and corporate marketing officers don't watch Oprah.

I predict Lance will gin up some infomercial, multi-level-marketing scheme.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I predict Lance will gin up some infomercial, multi-level-marketing scheme.

The Shamwow actually kind of works, so he won't be selling those anytime soon. I forsee a line of nutritional products of such terrible quality an FDA recall follows. Maybe timeshares for some non-existent place.

 

[D-Queued]

With the amount of PEDs the guy has done, if he is alive i will be surprised!

In 30 years, he will be stuffed and mounted in a museum.

Oh, wait...

Dave.

 

[sars1981]

This is what I posted in other thread.

I believe he will confess. Maybe not for a while. But he is smart. He knows he has lost. He's a public relations genius and will figure out a way to come out of this looking good still. LiveStrong will take on an anti-doping hue. He will tell everybody that he felt conflicted lying all those years, but had to because he didn't want to lose the faith of the cancer survivors. He will educate the public about how humans can't do events like the le tour without doping. He will invite people to infer that he is still the best rider since everybody was doping. It's the best move for him now. After reflection and calculation he will make it. It will work too. Look at Bill Clinton: Lied bold-faced to Americans and is still loved. Clinton is even MORE loved because of the humanity he showed when he confessed. People WANT to believe in Lance. If he gives them half a reason, they will.

 

[D-Queued]

This is what I posted in other thread.

I believe he will confess. Maybe not for a while. But he is smart. He knows he has lost. He's a public relations genius and will figure out a way to come out of this looking good still. LiveStrong will take on an anti-doping hue. He will tell everybody that he felt conflicted lying all those years, but had to because he didn't want to lose the faith of the cancer survivors. He will educate the public about how humans can't do events like the le tour without doping. He will invite people to infer that he is still the best rider since everybody was doping. It's the best move for him now. After reflection and calculation he will make it. It will work too. Look at Bill Clinton: Lied bold-faced to Americans and is still loved. Clinton is even MORE loved because of the humanity he showed when he confessed. People WANT to believe in Lance. If he gives them half a reason, they will.

But Bill has always had warmth and an easy appeal with people. Lance is cold, and more hero-worshiped than loved.

Someone (sorry not to remember who) has the message in their sig about telling a lie often enough that people remember it might be more on point.

Like your notion about 'doing it for cancer', but feeling conflicted.

Hopefully he does take that path, as it has juicy opportunities for anyone paying attention.

So, Lance, if you felt conflicted about lying about doping then why did you dope during the whole 'Hope Rides Again' falsehood? If you were so great an athlete, and especially when you told everyone it was just for cancer, couldn't you at least try and ride clean for that?

Heck, all the other cyclists tell us that they stopped doping in 2006. Why did you need to bring the dope with you?

Dave.

 

[jam pants]

Lance may have seen $100+ million move through his accounts over the years, but a safe bet is that he has less than $20 million liquid right now.

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

This is what I posted in other thread.

I believe he will confess. Maybe not for a while. But he is smart. He knows he has lost. He's a public relations genius and will figure out a way to come out of this looking good still. LiveStrong will take on an anti-doping hue. He will tell everybody that he felt conflicted lying all those years, but had to because he didn't want to lose the faith of the cancer survivors. He will educate the public about how humans can't do events like the le tour without doping. He will invite people to infer that he is still the best rider since everybody was doping. It's the best move for him now. After reflection and calculation he will make it. It will work too. Look at Bill Clinton: Lied bold-faced to Americans and is still loved. Clinton is even MORE loved because of the humanity he showed when he confessed. People WANT to believe in Lance. If he gives them half a reason, they will.

Clinton had a platform. Lance has no platform. He's banned from real competition. He has no sponsors. He has no cancer podium. After the Oprah interview, who pays attention to Lance?

 

[thehog]

Lance may have seen $100+ million move through his accounts over the years, but a safe bet is that he has less than $20 million liquid right now.

Correct.

And the $20 million is drying up fast.

Nothing coming back through the front door.

 

[sars1981]

Clinton had a platform. Lance has no platform. He's banned from real competition. He has no sponsors. He has no cancer podium. After the Oprah interview, who pays attention to Lance?

He still has the cancer podium. He beat cancer. He started a cancer foundation. That all counts, regardless of whether he's cheat and a liar.

 

[sars1981]

But Bill has always had warmth and an easy appeal with people. Lance is cold, and more hero-worshiped than loved.

Someone (sorry not to remember who) has the message in their sig about telling a lie often enough that people remember it might be more on point.

Like your notion about 'doing it for cancer', but feeling conflicted.

Hopefully he does take that path, as it has juicy opportunities for anyone paying attention.

So, Lance, if you felt conflicted about lying about doping then why did you dope during the whole 'Hope Rides Again' falsehood? If you were so great an athlete, and especially when you told everyone it was just for cancer, couldn't you at least try and ride clean for that?

Heck, all the other cyclists tell us that they stopped doping in 2006. Why did you need to bring the dope with you?

Dave.

I think Lance is pretty charismatic. He's Jekyll and Hyde, naturally, but very charming when he want to be. I'm sure he'll be at his likable best on Oprah.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Bad comparison Lance to Clinton.

Lance to OJ is more like it. Not equating doping to murder, no. But remember, OJ could appear pretty charismatic too.

 

[Fatclimber]

This is what I posted in other thread.

I believe he will confess. Maybe not for a while. But he is smart. He knows he has lost. He's a public relations genius and will figure out a way to come out of this looking good still. LiveStrong will take on an anti-doping hue. He will tell everybody that he felt conflicted lying all those years, but had to because he didn't want to lose the faith of the cancer survivors. He will educate the public about how humans can't do events like the le tour without doping. He will invite people to infer that he is still the best rider since everybody was doping. It's the best move for him now. After reflection and calculation he will make it. It will work too. Look at Bill Clinton: Lied bold-faced to Americans and is still loved. Clinton is even MORE loved because of the humanity he showed when he confessed. People WANT to believe in Lance. If he gives them half a reason, they will.

Yeah I think you're right here. Sadly. armstrong has a huge advantage over Billy since he was an athlete. I don't think partisan hatred was as severe in the 90's as it is now, but right off the bat Billy loses about half of possible supporters just because of his party affiliation. armstrong was fighting on behalf of 100% of Americans. Athlete>>>>>>>>>politician. It's a sick show, but now that I've gotten my anger mostly under control I try to find the amusement in it.

Don't be surprised to see armstrong revive his old plan of "continuing to fight on behalf of people" in the political realm. He would be in fine company in DC with the other morally & ethically bankrupt phonies. I would hate to see what people would be stupid enough to vote for him. He probably laughs every night at how gullible people are and how much he's able to manipulate them. If it doesn't pan out he'll just shrug his shoulders and go on enjoying life with however many illbegotten millions he has left.

 

[frenchfry]

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I predict Lance will gin up some infomercial, multi-level-marketing scheme.

He could call it "Livestrong.com"

Perfect.

 

[andy1234]

Hopefully in 30 years, idiots will no longer start threads about him on CN and he'll be forgotten by anybody.

Which should've been the case for 7 years now.

+1

Unlikely though.

Its the very people who claim to want him gone, who continue to promote his every move
Their relevance depends on his relevance.

 

[will10]

How on earth does he "return to triathlon" "in a few months" if no sanctioned event will have him? He's banned for life. The most thorough confession to USADA -- the specifics of when, where, how, who -- might get his suspension dropped to 8 years.

The Oprah interview, at best, might yield a week's worth of small donations to LiveStrong. Then it will dry up again. Wealthy people and corporate marketing officers don't watch Oprah.

I predict Lance will gin up some infomercial, multi-level-marketing scheme.

IMO it's a matter of time before someone, hell even Lance himself, sets up a specific triathlon series outside any jurisdistcion from WADA or USADA. We might as well call it the Lance Armstrong Tri Association. Lance will be back racing and people will FLOCK to race against him.

 

[Benotti69]

this is good

‏@DavidWalshST

"Do you think you'll look good in a Walmart staff uninform?"

 

[SundayRider]

So can Lance and his pending confession mean he can evolve his life to the same degree as David Millar?

Picture the scene:

Lance now worth approx $130m.

SCA, TDF, Sunday Times etc want say $20m anyway.

He confesses and say another $40m taken from him - leaving him with $50-60m.

In a few months he can return to triathlon. He can also become involved in cancer charity work again.

In 2-3 years his doping will be overlooked .....

He can continue both as long as he wants - potentially doing "cancer" appearances / advocacy for another 30 years.

Regarding David Millar, I've always found it strange how he just resumed his career in the peloton so easily. Whereas other dopers found it hard or impossible to reintegrate back into the peloton especially at the highest levels.

 

[ebandit]

eh?

Regarding David Millar, I've always found it strange how he just resumed his career in the peloton so easily. Whereas other dopers found it hard or impossible to reintegrate back into the peloton especially at the highest levels.

who? alberto.............valverde..............vino........aye! it's really tough

but this is a lance thread

i only see the lance estate having lot's of $'s alas lance will be well burnt

out

 

[SundayRider]

who? alberto.............valverde..............vino........aye! it's really tough

but this is a lance thread

i only see the lance estate having lot's of $'s alas lance will be well burnt

out

Yes but his reputation went from 'doper' to almost saint like very quickly.

 

[jam pants]

Correct.

And the $20 million is drying up fast.

Nothing coming back through the front door.

It sounds nuts to be scared when you've got a cool $20 million in the bank, but Armstrong's personal burn rate rivals small-scale startups. I imagine that even without legal fees he's in trouble after the events of the past year. Cash flow is surely an issue.

More than anything, the cash flow problem has to be addressed. My guess is that he'll say anything to get cash on the table today and build a steady (but small) revenue stream for the future. He'll be hitting Kik up for a long before long.

He'll be financially beholden to creditors - personal and otherwise - for the rest of his life.