Levi, third or fourth best american rider of all time?

[the3verB]

Now, he is fourth behind Lance, Lemond and Landis. But if he is on the podium of the Tour this year, he will maybe pass landis.

 

[Parrulo]

Now, he is fourth behind Lance, Lemond and Landis. But if he is on the podium of the Tour this year, he will maybe pass landis.

isn't he already better then landis?

also the chances of him finishing on the podium of next years tour are as high as mine . . .

 

[will10]

Who gives a stuff.

 

[the3verB]

isn't he already better then landis?

also the chances of him finishing on the podium of next years tour are as high as mine . . .

Yes maybe already third. but in the US, the 3 riders that are far more famous than any othe are Lance, Lemond and Landis. the 3 cycling superstars. For the public, Landis is the rival and ennemy of Armstrong.

And Landis has a particulary place in cycling history, only Tdf Winner stripped.

 

[Magnus]

What about Andy Hampsten (GT winner) or Tyler Hamilton (Monument winner)?

 

[Sciocco]

You could make the argument Tyler Hamilton was better than Landis or Levi since none of the three own a GT, but Tyler has a monument. There is also an American from the 1980's who won the Giro (name escapes me).

I think there is going to be the issue of how you rate different events. Some may go GT > monument > stage > else, others GT > stage > monument > else.

Hard to argue with Lance or Lemond though.

 

[issoisso]

Uhh....Andy Hampsten?

 

[Bavarianrider]

Hampston>>>>>>>>Leipheimer

 

[Mambo95]

Hampsten's ahead of Landis too.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I think that Levi does have a shot at the Tour podium this year. He is still time trialling really well and can hold on pretty well at times in the mountains.

 

[taiwan]

From around the web

Levi, third or fourth best american rider of all time?

Poll: In 2012 who will be the best time trialist Andy*«*the little Boss*» or Contador

Poll: Who is the best time trialist / Andy «*the little Boss*» Schleck or Nibali?

Sucks when people agree with your trolling and even adopt your new nicknames. Something more blunt might work.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sucks when people agree with your trolling and even adopt your new nicknames. Something more blunt might work.

+1..

 

[Lupetto]

1 Lance Armstrong 17363
2 Greg Lemond 14425
3 George Hincapie 10930
4 Levi Leipheimer * 9964
5 Andrew Hampsten 9681
6 Bobby Julich 7025
7 Tyler Hamilton 6207
8 Chris Horner 5008
9 Christian van de Velde 4422
10 Floyd Landis 3639

http://www.cyclingranking.com/rankings/OverallCountry.aspx?country=USA&fyear=1869&lyear=2012

 

[LaFlorecita]

1 Lance Armstrong 17363
2 Greg Lemond 14425
3 George Hincapie 10930
4 Levi Leipheimer * 9964
5 Andrew Hampsten 9681
6 Bobby Julich 7025
7 Tyler Hamilton 6207
8 Chris Horner 5008
9 Christian van de Velde 4422
10 Floyd Landis 3639

http://www.cyclingranking.com/rankings/OverallCountry.aspx?country=USA&fyear=1869&lyear=2012

MUAHAHA! THE TROLL WAS RIGHT!

 

[Sylvester]

1 Francesco Moser 19-Jun-1951 25048
2 Felice Gimondi 29-Sep-1942 23990
3 Gino Bartali 18-Jul-1914 23759
4 Davide Rebellin 09-Aug-1971 21411
5 Franco Bitossi 01-Sep-1940 18035
6 Giuseppe Saronni 22-Sep-1957 17046
7 Claudio Chiappucci 28-Feb-1963 16650
8 Fausto Coppi 15-Sep-1919 16408
9 Fiorenzo Magni 07-Dec-1920 14048
10 Gianni Bugno 14-Feb-1964 13933
11 Francesco Casagrande 14-Sep-1970 13747
12 Gibi Baronchelli 06-Sep-1953 13606
13 Wladimiro Panizza 05-Jun-1945 13563
14 Paolo Bettini 01-Apr-1974 12689
15 Alfredo Binda 11-Aug-1902 12173

That's a fairly counterintuitive list to say the very least.

"The scoring scheme will NOT be published and NOT be provided."

 

[will10]

1 Lance Armstrong 17363
2 Greg Lemond 14425
3 George Hincapie 10930
4 Levi Leipheimer * 9964
5 Andrew Hampsten 9681
6 Bobby Julich 7025
7 Tyler Hamilton 6207
8 Chris Horner 5008
9 Christian van de Velde 4422
10 Floyd Landis 3639

http://www.cyclingranking.com/rankings/OverallCountry.aspx?country=USA&fyear=1869&lyear=2012

This is the same ranking that put Rojas 7th in the world last year. Make of that what you will...

 

[will10]

1 Francesco Moser 19-Jun-1951 25048
2 Felice Gimondi 29-Sep-1942 23990
3 Gino Bartali 18-Jul-1914 23759
4 Davide Rebellin 09-Aug-1971 21411
5 Franco Bitossi 01-Sep-1940 18035
6 Giuseppe Saronni 22-Sep-1957 17046
7 Claudio Chiappucci 28-Feb-1963 16650
8 Fausto Coppi 15-Sep-1919 16408
9 Fiorenzo Magni 07-Dec-1920 14048
10 Gianni Bugno 14-Feb-1964 13933
11 Francesco Casagrande 14-Sep-1970 13747
12 Gibi Baronchelli 06-Sep-1953 13606
13 Wladimiro Panizza 05-Jun-1945 13563
14 Paolo Bettini 01-Apr-1974 12689
15 Alfredo Binda 11-Aug-1902 12173

That's a fairly counterintuitive list to say the very least.

"The scoring scheme will NOT be published and NOT be provided."

Translates as "we guessed and added some numbers to make it look like we actually worked something out".

 

[ultimobici]

1 Lance Armstrong 17363
2 Greg Lemond 14425
3 George Hincapie 10930
4 Levi Leipheimer * 9964
5 Andrew Hampsten 9681
6 Bobby Julich 7025
7 Tyler Hamilton 6207
8 Chris Horner 5008
9 Christian van de Velde 4422
10 Floyd Landis 3639

http://www.cyclingranking.com/rankings/OverallCountry.aspx?country=USA&fyear=1869&lyear=2012

You have to be kidding!

Hampsten has two 4th places in the Tour as well as the Maillot Blanc from 86, one of the most bitterly fought Tours in memory. He also won the 88 Giro taking the Mountains title in the process, not to mention two stages along the way.

Leipheimer has two stages of the Tour, a TT in 2007 and the TTT in 2009. How on earth can that cancel out an Alpe d'Huez road win? Yes he got on the podium, once. He hasn't won a single GT, nor any real stages.

Leipheimer did win the Tour de Suisse in 2007, but Hampsten won it twice, back to back.

FFS!!!

 

[The Hitch]

And Landis has a particulary place in cycling history, only Tdf Winner stripped.

Hes only got about 2 more days to enjoy that status.

 

[Peccio89]

I would put Hampsten third, Hamilton fourth( don't forget he won liege) and Levi fifth

 

[The Hitch]

MUAHAHA! THE TROLL WAS RIGHT!

You do realise this list has Contador as the 126th best rider of all time, behind Christophe Moreau, 70 places behind Evans.



Meanwhile Cav isnt in the top 30 for 2011 and Zaugg was is 96th

 

[Bavarianrider]

I've Julich abouve Leipeheimer too

 

[Race Radio]

You have to be kidding!

Hampsten has two 4th places in the Tour as well as the Maillot Blanc from 86, one of the most bitterly fought Tours in memory. He also won the 88 Giro taking the Mountains title in the process, not to mention two stages along the way.

Leipheimer has two stages of the Tour, a TT in 2007 and the TTT in 2009. How on earth can that cancel out an Alpe d'Huez road win? Yes he got on the podium, once. He hasn't won a single GT, nor any real stages.

Leipheimer did win the Tour de Suisse in 2007, but Hampsten won it twice, back to back.

FFS!!!

.......Bingo!

 

[The Hitch]

For me its Lance Lemond Hampsten Landis Hamilton Levi.

1 Francesco Moser 19-Jun-1951 25048
2 Felice Gimondi 29-Sep-1942 23990
3 Gino Bartali 18-Jul-1914 23759
4 Davide Rebellin 09-Aug-1971 21411
5 Franco Bitossi 01-Sep-1940 18035
6 Giuseppe Saronni 22-Sep-1957 17046
7 Claudio Chiappucci 28-Feb-1963 16650
8 Fausto Coppi 15-Sep-1919 16408
9 Fiorenzo Magni 07-Dec-1920 14048
10 Gianni Bugno 14-Feb-1964 13933
11 Francesco Casagrande 14-Sep-1970 13747
12 Gibi Baronchelli 06-Sep-1953 13606
13 Wladimiro Panizza 05-Jun-1945 13563
14 Paolo Bettini 01-Apr-1974 12689
15 Alfredo Binda 11-Aug-1902 12173

That's a fairly counterintuitive list to say the very least.

"The scoring scheme will NOT be published and NOT be provided."

This is the same ranking that put Rojas 7th in the world last year. Make of that what you will...

Translates as "we guessed and added some numbers to make it look like we actually worked something out".

You have to be kidding!

Hampsten has two 4th places in the Tour as well as the Maillot Blanc from 86, one of the most bitterly fought Tours in memory. He also won the 88 Giro taking the Mountains title in the process, not to mention two stages along the way.

Leipheimer has two stages of the Tour, a TT in 2007 and the TTT in 2009. How on earth can that cancel out an Alpe d'Huez road win? Yes he got on the podium, once. He hasn't won a single GT, nor any real stages.

Leipheimer did win the Tour de Suisse in 2007, but Hampsten won it twice, back to back.

FFS!!!

If you want to read further into the stupidity of this website, there was a thread about it.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=16208

 

[Bavarianrider]

You have to be kidding!

Hampsten has two 4th places in the Tour as well as the Maillot Blanc from 86, one of the most bitterly fought Tours in memory. He also won the 88 Giro taking the Mountains title in the process, not to mention two stages along the way.

Leipheimer has two stages of the Tour, a TT in 2007 and the TTT in 2009. How on earth can that cancel out an Alpe d'Huez road win? Yes he got on the podium, once. He hasn't won a single GT, nor any real stages.

Leipheimer did win the Tour de Suisse in 2007, but Hampsten won it twice, back to back.

FFS!!!

Let's not forget that Leipheimer is as clinic as it gets