and how much hgb goes into a withdrawal, roughly?arjanh said:I understand how you'd mask a blood transfusion, but how would you mask blood withdrawal? So far I couldn't find anything on the net...
Riders in 3 week GTs lose 2 Hct points / week for 6 in total (according to Tyler) - which equates to ~2 g/dl of Hgb as Hgb ~= Hct/3.arjanh said:Well, isn't something like .5 liter some sort of standard? So that'll be about 10% of your hgb, assuming the blood volume is restored pretty fast. Can you loose that much hgb in training?
Thanks.Tyler'sTwin said:Water down retics?![]()
I don't think so.
Well not sure if you were ever a teenager but as some teenagers I hear get into these intense kissing sessions and well if they concentrate on one spot it tends to draw blood to that spot and even pool there leaving a dark mark. So to not be noted as to of been kissing for extended amounts of time or be made fun of by fellow teenagers to no end there is known, well maybe unknown to you way to reduce this dark spot caused by the pooling of blood at the surface of the skin, we won't get into where they've been know to be commonly seen. You get a cold (ice cold) metal object, for example a spoon or a rounded but with an edge metal object and then rub it with some pressure but not too much (practice makes perfect) in one direction over and over repeating the cooling process to keep the metal object cold. I also hear some adults have this happen to themarjanh said:I understand how you'd mask a blood transfusion, but how would you mask blood withdrawal? So far I couldn't find anything on the net...
Ah so you're talking masking the bruising present when blood withdrawal occurs. We call those marks "love bites" here in Aus.ElChingon said:Well not sure if you were ever a teenager but as some teenagers I hear get into these intense kissing sessions and well if they concentrate on one spot it tends to draw blood to that spot and even pool there leaving a dark mark. So to not be noted as to of been kissing for extended amounts of time or be made fun of by fellow teenagers to no end there is known, well maybe unknown to you way to reduce this dark spot caused by the pooling of blood at the surface of the skin, we won't get into where they've been know to be commonly seen. You get a cold (ice cold) metal object, for example a spoon or a rounded but with an edge metal object and then rub it with some pressure but not too much (practice makes perfect) in one direction over and over repeating the cooling process to keep the metal object cold. I also hear some adults have this happen to them![]()
or some makeupElChingon said:Well not sure if you were ever a teenager but as some teenagers I hear get into these intense kissing sessions and well if they concentrate on one spot it tends to draw blood to that spot and even pool there leaving a dark mark. So to not be noted as to of been kissing for extended amounts of time or be made fun of by fellow teenagers to no end there is known, well maybe unknown to you way to reduce this dark spot caused by the pooling of blood at the surface of the skin, we won't get into where they've been know to be commonly seen. You get a cold (ice cold) metal object, for example a spoon or a rounded but with an edge metal object and then rub it with some pressure but not too much (practice makes perfect) in one direction over and over repeating the cooling process to keep the metal object cold. I also hear some adults have this happen to them![]()
From my memory of donating blood, the basic volume is made up within 48 hrs. A quick google seems to confirm this...arjanh said:Well, isn't something like .5 liter some sort of standard? So that'll be about 10% of your hgb, assuming the blood volume is restored pretty fast. Can you loose that much hgb in training?
to avoid tracks junkies use between the toes, inside the eyelids, the crack between the cheeks (is that why its known as crack?), sometimes up the nostril.keeponrollin said:...the people drawing the blood, don't use the inside of the elbow either, just to hide the marks all the better !
sittingbison said:Richard Virenque on the other hand used all over his torso:
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Heading out on the club hilly chain gang that you normally struggle on when fit is really not a sound plan the evening of the day you donate blood.keeponrollin said:From my memory of donating blood, the basic volume is made up within 48 hrs. A quick google seems to confirm this...