Teams & Riders Matteo Jorgenson's inexorable rise to the top

[Eddy Evenepoel]

This kid is going to do great things.

 

[Oldermanish]

KUSS should work for Jorgenson at the Vuelta

Or some joint parity. Kuss has been ill and doesn't deserve lesser status if he's ready to go. Has Visma made any team commitments there? I've kinda tuned them out because most of the info is PR BS.

 

[Bolder]

Jorgenson and Almeida could have given Remco a run for third if they were leading their own teams.

 

[SafeBet]

I worried his recovery was not good enough for a three week race but he's finishing the Tour on a high note.
Could be a future Vuelta winner. Or even Giro?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Jorgenson and Almeida could have given Remco a run for third if they were leading their own teams.

I don’t think so. Jorgenson got gapped big time on Galibier without doing any pacing and would’ve been around 3 minute behind Remco after stage 2, Galibier and the ITT. It would’ve been hard to get that time back given how Remco have climbed, and if Jorgenson was a leader aiming for the podium he wouldn’t be allowed in a break like he did on Isola. Almeida would probably be quite a lot closer, but also he would’ve had to make up significant time after stage 2 and the ITT. At Plateau du Beille Almeida didn’t pull a single meter for Pogacar and still lost almost 2 minutes to Remco. They would be closer, but I don’t think it would be a close battle.

 

[Stubb]

if today he shows some improvements in the TT compared to dauphiné - less than 30 sec to remco/pog - i'd say he deserves to be the leader in a Gt next year, hopefully the giro. Honestly, I was expecting a good third week but nothing like this, the consistency he displyed puts him in the top 5 for gc contenders, on pair with almeida after the big 4. Just hope no vuelta for him but a nice rest and a good autumn campaing.

 

[Potomac]

They should both work for Vingegaard.

Vingo said he was not doing the Vuelta.
He said that before the tour. I don't know if he changed is mind since.

 

[pastronef]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815049046802731109

View: https://x.com/GCKUSSfan/status/1815049046802731109/photo/1

 

[jmdirt]

KUSS should work for Jorgenson at the Vuelta

two headed monster

 

[jmdirt]

GREAT TdF MJ!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Looked great in this Tour and was a big help to Vingegaard during the race. If he was the sole leader I think he’d give Almeida and Landa a run for 4th.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Great Tour and, while it sounds silly given that Kuss has won* a GT and Jorgenson just finished 8th, but Jorgenson clearly seems more promising going forward. He can climb, time trial, ride classics…huge talent, love to see it.

 

[Oldermanish]

I worried his recovery was not good enough for a three week race but he's finishing the Tour on a high note.
Could be a future Vuelta winner. Or even Giro?

This is what, his 4th Tour? He looked pretty strong last year so his recovery with this work load proved pretty amazing. That last TT said alot about his top end; after that work load.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Must be polka dots next year for him after that bit of practice on Friday.

 

[Bolder]

Give this man a leadership role in a GT, please, Visma. I'm onboard the GC Jorgenson bandwagon.

 

[Netserk]

I think he has been more than happy with his role this year (winning P-N and on the podium in Dauphiné), and I expect the same for him next year. And a more protected role in the non-mountain stages in the Tour, as they will likely not be stretched so thin again.

 

[AmRacer]

I think he has been more than happy with his role this year (winning P-N and on the podium in Dauphiné), and I expect the same for him next year. And a more protected role in the non-mountain stages in the Tour, as they will likely not be stretched so thin again.

Don't forget his Dwars win.

 

[Sciatic]

Don't forget his Dwars win.

Great point, that (and some good RvV performances) set up apart as a special talent.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Well, the Danish pronunciation is hard. That's a fact, and the reason why the Danish children need longer time to learn it compared to other kids

Or maybe they just start learning to speak Danish from the moment they start eating hot potatoes

And we all know from where Swedish children learn their tongue language:

(sorry just post posting realized I bumped the thread - first time noticing it)

 

[Monte Serra]

Matteo's preview of the Olympic road race, with Scottish cycling punter David Hunter (Cyclingmole):

View: https://youtu.be/2O_Plpsck5k?feature=shared


It made it all the way to Sporza:

Matteo Jorgenson duwt Belgen in favorietenrol voor olympische wegrit: "Bijna gênant als ze niet winnen" | sporza

Het Belgische kwartet boezemt de concurrentie veel angst in voor de olympische wegrit. "Zelfs als het plan-Evenepoel niet lukt, hebben ze nog andere kaarten om mee te spelen", zegt de Amerikaan Matteo Jorgenson, die ook Jasper Stuyven naar voren schuift.

sporza.be

 

[Valv.Piti]

That David Hunter is such a jerk IMO, but it was a good interview tbf.

 

[Potomac]

42 minute video, what's the tldw?

 

[Sciatic]

Matteo's preview of the Olympic road race, with Scottish cycling punter David Hunter (Cyclingmole):

View: https://youtu.be/2O_Plpsck5k?feature=shared


It made it all the way to Sporza:

Matteo Jorgenson duwt Belgen in favorietenrol voor olympische wegrit: "Bijna gênant als ze niet winnen" | sporza

Het Belgische kwartet boezemt de concurrentie veel angst in voor de olympische wegrit. "Zelfs als het plan-Evenepoel niet lukt, hebben ze nog andere kaarten om mee te spelen", zegt de Amerikaan Matteo Jorgenson, die ook Jasper Stuyven naar voren schuift.

sporza.be

I enjoy listening to Matteo—but wish the interviewer didn’t feel the need to talk so Much!

 

[Monte Serra]

42 minute video, what's the tldw?

He provides a recap of the Tour. I think he undersells his performance a bit. "It's not like 8th in GC is gonna change anything." But he's happy that he performed well deep into the third week of a grand tour and that he did good time trials. His CdA has improved a lot at Visma.

For the Olympic road race, he thinks the Belgian squad is the team to beat. But that it will be a really hard race to control. Matteo thinks a solo rider will win the race.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He provides a recap of the Tour. I think he undersells his performance a bit. "It's not like 8th in GC is gonna change anything." But he's happy that he performed well deep into the third week of a grand tour and that he did good time trials. His CdA has improved a lot at Visma.

For the Olympic road race, he thinks the Belgian squad is the team to beat. But that it will be a really hard race to control. Matteo thinks a solo rider will win the race.

He has to laugh when the guy from CM says Van der Poel is the overwhelming favorite for the OG RR, "you really think so?".

He picks Evenepoel to finish solo. The peloton only has 90 riders, of which roughly 30 are pack fodder, teams are small so the race will be difficult to control. That also means unlike at a big classic, monument or even WCC, that positioning is far less a factor. So riders that are good at positioning, lose that advantage. The city course starts a lot closer to the finish than in the '23 WCC, the peloton will be much smaller, teams weaker/smaller. On average riders will be riding in the wind a lot more/earlier (the peloton is much smaller and a lot of the riders aren't WT level and will drop early). There are no radios. All of that screams chaos and a long hard race.