McQuaid...out of control? [UCI/Pat McQuad discussion]

[pastadoc]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

 

[jens_attacks]

His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

let's hope it will be soon.his disastrous management brought huge losses to this professional sport.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

Did AC have a banned substance in his system? Y/N
Has there been any proof that it came from 'tainted beef? Y/N

AC can whine all day about how he was a innocent bystander but he is going to banned, time TBD. Ask Moniger about tainted supplements.

 

[roundabout]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

Link please?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Pat is becoming as funny as Blatter, the fifa boss

 

[Jamsque]

At least Pat hasn't sent the Worlds to Qatar... yet.

 

[fatandfast]

At least Pat hasn't sent the Worlds to Qatar... yet.

In the winter..McQuack is not the only problem and the Alberto pickle is a great example. The punishment should have come from the UCI not some guy in Spain that will get death threats. For Pat to say Contador is damaging cycling is not funny..Contador is doing what anybody would do..explore ever option and the fact that there are dozens..ala Valverde..you can't blame Alberto..The UCI really mixed up..I hope they don't screw up bicycle gymnastics, handball and BMX like they did road racing

 

[TERMINATOR]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

You are completely misrepresenting what McQuaid said. McQuaid is simply stating the obvious. No matter what the outcome of this case with the Spanish federation, the losing side will appeal. Guaranteed. That puts the case with CAS no matter what, which means a final decision won't be rendered until after the Tour de France.

Even if by some miracle, CAS could expedite the process and decide the case by June, Contador will not have raced once in the previous 10 months and his fitness will be compromised. Not even a doped-up Lance can win the Tour de France with ZERO racing under his belt in the 10-month lead-up to the Tour.

So McQuaid was only stating the obvious.

Second, Contador had an analytical positive. This is like blowing a .15 on a Breathalyzer. Is there really a need to "withold judgement" and "let the process pan out" in light of an analytical positive where Contador's legal team doesn't even have a sample of the supposed contaminated meat?

Given that 99.999% of analytical positive athletes are ultimately found guilty and suspended, it completely escapes me why people like you and Riis are under the impression he will beat this wrap. This case is a no brainer and Contador will be suspended, will be DQ'ed from the 2010 Tour and will NOT start this year's Tour. This is not some puzzle that only I can solve. Anybody who is over 13 can see this will be the outcome.

Since McQuaid has ZERO say in Contador's case or his participation in the Tour, I'm not so sure what you're all up in arms about. You sound like one of those people who actually thought **** Pound was convicting innocent cyclists in the media. In hindsight, everything Pound said and did was 100% right and it was actually the cyclists who are the serial liars and source of slander.

In most cases I don't agree with McQuaid, but this is not one of them. You people need to stop making frivolous posts that just yell at people for no articulable reason.

 

[DAOTEC]

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Pat is becoming as funny as Blatter, the fifa boss

 

[orbeas]

McQuaid

You are completely misrepresenting what McQuaid said. McQuaid is simply stating the obvious. No matter what the outcome of this case with the Spanish federation, the losing side will appeal. Guaranteed. That puts the case with CAS no matter what, which means a final decision won't be rendered until after the Tour de France.

Even if by some miracle, CAS could expedite the process and decide the case by June, Contador will not have raced once in the previous 10 months and his fitness will be compromised. Not even a doped-up Lance can win the Tour de France with ZERO racing under his belt in the 10-month lead-up to the Tour.

So McQuaid was only stating the obvious.

Second, Contador had an analytical positive. This is like blowing a .15 on a Breathalyzer. Is there really a need to "withold judgement" and "let the process pan out" in light of an analytical positive where Contador's legal team doesn't even have a sample of the supposed contaminated meat?

Given that 99.999% of analytical positive athletes are ultimately found guilty and suspended, it completely escapes me why people like you and Riis are under the impression he will beat this wrap. This case is a no brainer amnd Contador will be suspended, will be DQ'ed from the 2010 Tour and will NOT start this year's Tour. This is not some puzzle that only I can solve. Anybody who is over 13 can see this will be the outcome.

Since McQuaid has ZERO say in Contador's case or his participation in the Tour, I'm not so sure what you're all up in arms about. You sound like one of those people who actually thought **** Pound was convicting innocent cyclists in the media. In hindsight, everything Pound said and did was 100% right and it was actually the cyclists who are the serial liars and source of slander.

In most cases I don't agree with McQuaid, but this is not one of them. You people need to stop making frivolous posts that just yell at people for no articulable reason.

to quote El Presidente today
" Whether he is guilty or not, Contador has damaged us very much," said McQuaid.
and the Lance Armstrong saga is not ????????????

Please please Pat resign and lets get somebody who cares about Pro Cycling and not his ego !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Angliru]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

Is he a media ***** or what? I wish he would just STFU. It seems that he always has to be in the news making another ridiculous, ethically questionable statement. Does he think that he is the face of professional cycling and thus has to be at center stage yapping day after day after day?
As long as he's in charge there isn't much hope for the sport to rise above it's obstacles especially since he and his lack of professionalism are one of the primary barriers to any hope of progress.

 

[Angliru]

@ Terminator:
It may have mattered a bit if the entire process hadn't been delayed by the effort to keep the incident undercover for so long. It was approximately 2 months before any real action was taken or even an announcement. That in itself is questionable and suspicious. Behind it all is McQuaid, further sullying the sport with his continued lack of professionalism and curious methods.

 

[avanti]

............... Does he think that he is the face of professional cycling and thus has to be at center stage yapping day after day after day?
........................

I agree - he should not speak out on any rider during a doping investigation.

McQuaid should be lobbying for rider suspensions to be accomplished withing days of a positive - not several months.

 

[Francois the Postman]

I have another name for the list of people that damage cycling.

The people who dream up their own version of "due and fair" process and then don't know what comments are and aren't appropriate when the process is under way.

Amongst a long long list of other things.

I no longer can think of any sane response to the endless stream of inappropriate drivel and nonsensical tripe that comes from the top.

For the common good, anyone, please, turf this joke from our sport.

 

[skidmark]

Regardless of whether or not he's 'telling it like it is', the role of president of a sport's governing body requires a bit more professionalism and diplomacy. This just seems petty.

Same goes for the Spanish federation official who said the other day that he hopes for the best for Contador or some such thing.

You can express your opinion as a fan without proof, or even a rider to the media, to some extent, without it being inappropriate. But when you're part of the mechanism of supposed impartial justice, you just can't say things like that in a public venue, IMHO.

 

[webvan]

Whether he is guilty or not, Contador has damaged us very much," said McQuaid

from http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cont...-says-mcquaid?

I'm all for punishing cheaters and I doubt Contador is clean, but it definitely looks like Paddy is losing it! Guess Bertie and his entourage didn't push the right buttons in due course...

If he did say this, he should be forced to resign, this is unacceptable.

 

[BotanyBay]

The UCI had already decided that AC will not participate in the TDF. So much for due process. McQuaid damages cycling with his arbitrary comments and not allowing due process to proceed. His continued comments about AC are just getting worse. His leaving cycling might be a great thing.

Every so often, McQuaid forgets to maintain the façade that fair play exists. Besides, he needs to get the focus off of Armstrong for a day or two.

 

[Maxiton]

Who gets thrown under the bus first?

"McQuaid Says Contador Has Damaged Cycling." Pot: meet kettle. I love cycling, I do, but it's a sport filthy with corruption, filthier even than boxing, and McQuaid is the filthiest and most corrupt of all.

It's so obvious that he's on someone's payroll. (In fact I'm sure he's on several, but one in particular.) He isn't even subtle about it. It's almost comical, like we went to sleep, then woke up in satire. Where is Peter Sellers?

In The Clinic they are asking the question, who gets thrown under the bus first? Here's your answer: Contador.

 

[icefire]

Pat is becoming as funny as Blatter, the fifa boss

Cycling is already getting referees making mistakes to fix race winners

 

[online-rider]

In the winter..McQuack is not the only problem and the Alberto pickle is a great example. The punishment should have come from the UCI not some guy in Spain that will get death threats. For Pat to say Contador is damaging cycling is not funny..Contador is doing what anybody would do..explore ever option and the fact that there are dozens..ala Valverde..you can't blame Alberto..The UCI really mixed up..I hope they don't screw up bicycle gymnastics, handball and BMX like they did road racing

That would be the final straw.

 

[warmfuzzies]

Contador's doping case exemplifies the systemic distortions caused when wealthy celebrities break rules. Contador should have been banned months ago. But this game of lawyers, tainted steak, and ego (including McQuaid) slows the process. Cycling and the Tour will proceed this year without Contador. Eventually, Contador will be DQed from his 2010 TdF victory, and will serve his 2-year suspension. Another star will rise, that star will dope, and the process will begin anew.

 

[hfer07]

Mr McQuaid:

What is more damaging for cycling in your wise view:
5 Picograms of Clenbuterol OR $ 500,000 "donation" from what is soon-to-be the biggest fraud in Cycling/Sporting History"?

 

[online-rider]

Mr McQuaid:

What is more damaging for cycling in your wise view:
5 Picograms of Clenbuterol OR $ 500,000 "donation" from what is soon-to-be the biggest fraud in Cycling/Sporting History"?

Good call hfer. Mcquaid's got this all wrong!

 

[Polyarmour]

If Contador is found guilty, he has damaged cycling.

If Contador is found innocent, the UCI has damaged cycling

When McQuaid comments on this case before a decision is reached, McQuaid has damaged cycling because he undermines due process.

The fact that this process has taken so long damages cycling.

 

[Oldman]

With one son being paid as a consultant for a World's Championship bid in Virginia and his other son acting as rider agent it reminds me of a line in the movie Tombstone: "H*ll, we're working this burg three ways until Sunday".