Mental cycling statistics

[Izzyeviel]

2021 Tour de France teams budgets https://www.statista.com/statistics/1253756/tour-de-france-team-budgets/

Sadly I've looked at the page too much & its no longer viewable to me - could some kind soul take a screenshot & post here?

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Ivan Sosa won the other day at Genting Highlands, Malaysia, more than 19,050 km (per Google maps) from his (Pro Cycling Stats reported) home of Pasca, Colombia. Given that the farthest away any two points on the planet can posibly be is about 20,040 km, is this the farthest from home a rider has ever won a race? (I have already checked other Colombian Genting winners)

 

[Monte Serra]

Using Antipodesmap one can relatively easy find a point on the exact other side of the globe. New Zealand is antipodal to the Iberian Peninsula. So a Kiwi rider winning in Spain might challenge Sosa's achievement.

Checked for George Bennett. And he has one win in Europe, Gran Piemonte finishing in Barolo. 18,754 km from his place of birth in Nelson. Close but no cigar.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

That led to me finding Julian Dean's 2001 win in the Vuelta a Castilla y Leon stage ending in Zamora, some 19,537 km from Waihi, NZ. So that might be the one.

 

[Monte Serra]

Based one a quick search, I found two New Zealand cyclists who have bettered Sosa.

Julian Dean won stage 4 of the 2001 Vuelta a Castilla y Leon, finishing in Zamora, 19,526 km from his hometown Waihi.

Greg Chadwick won stage 1 of the 2009 Vuelta Asturias, finishing in Llanes, 19,548 km from his hometown Opunake.

Didn't find that many other Kiwi wins on the Iberian peninsula, other than Greg Henderson. But he's from the South Island, which put him in a geographical disadvantageous position. As the antipodal point to his birthplace Dunedin is somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I found another couple close to the 19k mark, thanks to the Malaysia and Indonesia area which has a lot of Asia Tour races being close to antipodal to parts of Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador which are home to a few mercenary riders who ride on non-UCI teams at home so pick up UCI contracts with Asian teams for those races. Yonathan Monsalve (from Maracaibo) winning a Tour de Singkarak stage and Wilmar Jahír Pérez (from Turbequé, Bogotá) winning on Gunung Jerai in the Jelajah Malaysia, and in Sembalun in the Tour de Lombok are all around the upper 18ks. Álvaro Duarte (younger brother of Fabio) won the GC of the Tour de Lombok in 2018 which again is just under 19k (using Mataram, which was the finishing town of the final stage, as the line), but nothing that beats Chadwick.

 

[tobydawq]

If we use a coordinate system that isn't fixed to the Earth but a universal space-time system, then the numbers will be higher.

 

[fiddlers]

Riders in top-200 PCS all-time rankings who have never won a GT stage. In brackets is GT starts.

Frans Verbeeck (4)
Andrei Tchmil (11)
Richie Porte (17)
Claude Criquielion (16)
Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle (16)
Sonny Colbrelli (10)
Andrea Tafi (14)
Niki Terpstra (15)

although Porte did get on the top step for a TTT in TDF18

 

[rallybanana]

If we use a coordinate system that isn't fixed to the Earth but a universal space-time system, then the numbers will be higher.

You mean like Tim Marsman winning a stage of the Tour de Normandie?

 

[PeterB]

Some might say noone won farther from their true home than this rider...

(https://www.velonews.com/news/road/froome-faces-scrutiny-extraterrestrial-dna-test-results/)

 

[rallybanana]

Using Antipodesmap one can relatively easy find a point on the exact other side of the globe. New Zealand is antipodal to the Iberian Peninsula. So a Kiwi rider winning in Spain might challenge Sosa's achievement.

Don't forget about Portugal.
James Oram from Palmerston North won stage 1 of the 2015 Volta ao Alentejo in Castelo de Vide. Distance = 19733km

 

[QueenStagiaire]

If we use a coordinate system that isn't fixed to the Earth but a universal space-time system, then the numbers will be higher.

That would just be the oldest race winner with how quickly the universe is expanding, wouldn‘t it?

 

[rallybanana]

That would just be the oldest race winner with how quickly the universe is expanding, wouldn‘t it?

Would you need to take into account the effects of "Gravitational time dilation" as riders living in high-altitude regions age faster than riders living in low-lying countries?

 

[Finn84]

Richie Porte and Steven Kruijswijk come to mind IMO.

Andreas Klöden deserves a mention too. He was close.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

On stage 6 of the 2014 Tour of Turkey the age of first and second place combined was equal to the age of third place as 21 year-olds Adam Yates and Davide Formolo finished ahead of 42 year-old Davide Rebellin

Note: going by years, not days

 

[SHAD0W93]

Andreas Klöden deserves a mention too. He was close.

Came second 7 times but close 4-5 times.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Next year, Riccardo Zoidl will begin his fourth stint at the team currently known as Team Felbermayr - Simplon Wels. Is it a record or has anyone transfered to one team more times than that?

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Next year, Riccardo Zoidl will begin his fourth stint at the team currently known as Team Felbermayr - Simplon Wels. Is it a record or has anyone transfered to one team more times than that?

Marko Kump signed with and left Adria Mobil four times, too.

 

[BigCoward]

Whats the longest time a team has had exactly the same name without any sponsor changes?

 

[Netserk]

Whats the longest time a team has had exactly the same name without any sponsor changes?

Recently, I think it’s Rabobank.

 

[Finn84]

Recently, I think it’s Rabobank.

Rabobank was 17 years, just beating Euskaltel-Euskadi which was on for 16 years.

Movistar Team has now completed 12 seasons.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Adria Mobil has

Rabobank was 17 years, just beating Euskaltel-Euskadi which was on for 16 years.

Movistar Team has now completed 12 seasons.

Adria Mobil had their 17th season under that name this year.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It would also depend on one's stance on Française des Jeux, because they were the only title sponsor from 1997 to 2011 and 2013 to 2018, and the lead sponsor alongside BigMat for 2012 only - but also they changed names a few times during that time from La Française des Jeux to FDJeux.com, back to La Française des Jeux and then to FDJ. They therefore were the only sponsor with no changes for 15 years in one stint and 6 in the other totalling 21, but BigMat coming on board as a secondary title sponsor in 2012 breaks the continuity so they would be behind Rabo and Euskaltel if we stick to a strict definition.

But then if we are too loose with the definition then of course we just bring back the Belgian Lotto, who are the longest unbroken title sponsor as we all know, but they were the secondary sponsor from 2005 to 2011 because Omega Pharma (and a few subsidiaries) took first billing in that period. Nevertheless that means they were a primary title sponsor unbroken from 1985 to 2004, but with a revolving door of secondary sponsors that mean the team changed name repeatedly and obviously then it's not the same question anymore, just a question of longest sponsorship.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It would also depend on one's stance on Française des Jeux, because they were the only title sponsor from 1997 to 2011 and 2013 to 2018, and the lead sponsor alongside BigMat for 2012 only - but also they changed names a few times during that time from La Française des Jeux to FDJeux.com, back to La Française des Jeux and then to FDJ. They therefore were the only sponsor with no changes for 15 years in one stint and 6 in the other totalling 21, but BigMat coming on board as a secondary title sponsor in 2012 breaks the continuity so they would be behind Rabo and Euskaltel if we stick to a strict definition.

But then if we are too loose with the definition then of course we just bring back the Belgian Lotto, who are the longest unbroken title sponsor as we all know, but they were the secondary sponsor from 2005 to 2011 because Omega Pharma (and a few subsidiaries) took first billing in that period. Nevertheless that means they were a primary title sponsor unbroken from 1985 to 2004, but with a revolving door of secondary sponsors that mean the team changed name repeatedly and obviously then it's not the same question anymore, just a question of longest sponsorship.

If we’re going down that route, then surely Cofidis are the longest uninterrupted lead sponsor? 1997 to present.

 

[rallybanana]

The Viviani brothers have professional wins on all 6 continents (not including Antarctica).

Elia has won races in Europe, Asia, Australia, and North and South America. He has never won in Africa but his brother Attilio makes up for that having won a stage in La Tropicale Amissa Bongo.