Museeuw calls for doping confessions

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ChewbaccaD

ChewbaccaD

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Really glad to see this. There is a story out there somewhere about the reaction of the emergency personnel's reaction to seeing his blood after his fall in Paris-Roubaix in 1998. I can't seem to find it, but as I recall, they were shocked by the consistency of his blood.

I always loved to watch him ride. I wanted him to be my favorite rider of the era, but my surety about his doping never let me feel that. I now have a lot of respect for him. Thanks Johan!
 
ebandit

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museeuw

loved museeuw one of my all time favourites

how much detail of his doping has been seen by anyone?

what i have read seems very limited............a response to being 'caught out'

has he confessed fully with details of what/when used? that's what the sport needs to move on
 
Lexman

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Although i liked him as a rider, he was always a little soft in words

His stand today is very courageous, big props indeed to Museeuw!!
 
L'arriviste

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ebandit said:
loved museeuw one of my all time favourites

how much detail of his doping has been seen by anyone?

what i have read seems very limited............a response to being 'caught out'

has he confessed fully with details of what/when used? that's what the sport needs to move on
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His first, limited admission ended in resignation from his post as QuickStep's PR man. A full two years passed before he talked more about it. Summary here:

http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/Museeuw-admission-2/

As others have said upthread, his confession was limited to that of the old man doping to keep up. In this latest story, it looks very much like an implied admission of career-long doping. We will see if the Belgian press picks up on that.
 
will10

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Antianti said:
Well, he could begin with his own story.
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I was thinking that. His Basso-like confession didn't help anyone. Spit it out Johan, then perhaps others will follow suit.
 
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will10 said:
I was thinking that. His Basso-like confession didn't help anyone. Spit it out Johan, then perhaps others will follow suit.
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amen to that! End the hypocrisy? JM NEVER confessed until he was caught with the SMS messages for the world to see were made public. Then it was four more years -then a dribble of a confession amounting to "Oh i used a little at the end of my career." uh huh. Now HE wants the hypocrisy to end?
Jeez im gettin all teary eyed...
 
Cycle Chic

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bravo for talking out loud.....but then he says today's peloton is clean. He just lost all credibility.
 
glassmoon

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there is ONE thing that is SAD about all those "past" dopers and their "book-confessions": the cheaters earn TWICE!!!
1. they earned big money when racing with help of doping
2. they earn money by selling the books/interviews when confessing that they were f*cking cheaters!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
they should be sanctioned for all money they've earned by cheating. also, isn't it against the law when you claim profit by cheating/lying?
:eek:


- i mean, it's good to know truth... but come on, there should be consequences. now you can see the cheaters/liars as a successful team managers, etc. that's just wrong.
 
Mrs John Murphy

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will10 said:
I was thinking that. His Basso-like confession didn't help anyone. Spit it out Johan, then perhaps others will follow suit.
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This is again where new tough journalism needs to come to the fore.

Someone needs to push him to go through his doping from start to finish. He needs to name names and truly break omerta. Who was his supplier, who supported him in his doping?
 
Old School

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It's always easy to shout from the mountain top when you are retired. He has a good idea, but that's not fair to those who are still riding. Those guys have a right to wonder,

1. Will I lose my current contract?
2. Will my victories be taken away?
3. Will I end up in court/jail?

They are still making their living, so, it is hard to "force" current riders to "admit" to having cheated.

What is right? What is wrong? Who knows, but the grass is always greener on the other side.
 
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glassmoon said:
there is ONE thing that is SAD about all those "past" dopers and their "book-confessions": the cheaters earn TWICE!!!
1. they earned big money when racing with help of doping
2. they earn money by selling the books/interviews when confessing that they were f*cking cheaters!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
they should be sanctioned for all money they've earned by cheating. also, isn't it against the law when you claim profit by cheating/lying?
:eek:


- i mean, it's good to know truth... but come on, there should be consequences. now you can see the cheaters/liars as a successful team managers, etc. that's just wrong.
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Well you could always *Cheat* them and get the book illegal digitally.. I don't see how they could be mad about you for that ^^
 
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glassmoon said:
there is ONE thing that is SAD about all those "past" dopers and their "book-confessions": the cheaters earn TWICE!!!
1. they earned big money when racing with help of doping
2. they earn money by selling the books/interviews when confessing that they were f*cking cheaters!
:mad: :mad: :mad:
they should be sanctioned for all money they've earned by cheating. also, isn't it against the law when you claim profit by cheating/lying?
:eek:


- i mean, it's good to know truth... but come on, there should be consequences. now you can see the cheaters/liars as a successful team managers, etc. that's just wrong.
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Ok then. Your head will explode then when Sally Jenkins writes the Lance Armstrong confession/tell all book.
 
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Markyboyzx6r

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Johan. It's 2012. If you'd said this in 2006 you'd have had a tad more credibility. Still, if you lead the way and give full disclosure about your doping network and who's still involved in the sport, then you'll have my respect.
 
nvpacchi

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I'd like to see a translation of the original article. It may give a clearer indication of what Museeuw wants to see done.

Right now sounds like a dog with a big bark and no bite atm
 
Cimber

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Its funny how some riders who confess gets cheered while other who confess gets booohed.

Anyways, if we take for granted that everyone doped, I reckon all the victories made in those years still stand and are still great since they all competed under the same conditions? I mean Lance was still the rightful winner since all and every1 else doped as well?
 
JA.Tri

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Scott SoCal said:
Ok then. Your head will explode then when Sally Jenkins writes the Lance Armstrong confession/tell all book.
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Provided Sally and Lance donate all funds that would ordinarily come to them, to any charity, other than Livestrong.

They could do it as a "public service announcement"....
 
Willy_Voet

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Cimber said:
Its funny how some riders who confess gets cheered while other who confess gets booohed.
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...and some don't confess at all.

The self-righteous indignation in this forum is laughable.
 
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