Wrong, wrong, wrong... As the guys who actually watched the games (i didn´t, since i am on strike) said here and everywhere, that the real refs do a much better job than those replacements. So it seems to be a rare talent to be a top official. And what do get rare talents paid? Of course, a hell lot of money. Especially in the USA. Further, the more you pay your top officials, the less vulnerable they are (to get involved with gamblers, the mob and other shady guys who try to undermine the little integretiy that´s left in the game).JeffreyPerry said:Are you serious? The real ref's make about 150k a year for a PART TIME JOB that starts in September and goes to the beginning of February. One day a week of work for that period and they get 150k? Let them suffer. They should have invested some of that money by now. It's a PART TIME JOB for god's sake. It's bad enough the players make millions to play a freaking game. We don't need the refs making more than they do already.
Minimum salary in the NFL is roughly 300k, for the bench warmer types, who work out everyday at the gym 365 days a year, then attend practice every day during the preseason and regular season. This 1 million signing bonus you speak of doesn't go to bench warmers About selling tickets and t-shirts and beer, I'm almost positive that attendance and TV ratings have not suffered because of the referees. Anyway, it will be nice to finally hear about something other than the replacement referees when discussing NFL.FoxxyBrown1111 said:Wrong, wrong, wrong... As the guys who actually watched the games (i didn´t, since i am on strike) said here and everywhere, that the real refs do a much better job than those replacements. So it seems to be a rare talent to be a top official. And what do get rare talents paid? Of course, a hell lot of money. Especially in the USA. Further, the more you pay your top officials, the less vulnerable they are (to get involved with gamblers, the mob and other shady guys who try to undermine the little integretiy that´s left in the game).
As i said before; the real refs are the only top NFL personal that is underpaid. By far. Compare 150.000 to a million $ signing bonus for some obscure bench warmers. Now you see the context. If the money is there, share it fair.
Part-Time Job? Well, rules change every year. The rule book is thick, and i guess there is a lot preperation to do before each season which BTW starts in August, not September. Then, the guys have to know in every second of the game what the exact situation is. Is it a spot foul, can a fair catch kick occur, did the OL move beyond 5 yds on a screen and so on, and so on. It´s a stressful, difficult job.
The only reason they are not paid fair money is b/c the owners don´t care since they can´t sell tickets or shirts b/c of them. OTOH, everybody sees now how important they are...
If referees deserve to be paid more than $150K per year, how much do teachers deserve to be paid? And people wonder why our educational system is so dysfunctional? Referees can make this much money because the NFL is awash in cash. People vote for what they really want with their pocketbooks, and as usual, we get what we deserve.Alpe d'Huez said:
http://news.yahoo.com/ex-qb-jim-mcmahon-talks-early-stage-dementia-013425332--nfl.htmlMcMahon said he suffered four concussions while playing. He said after being slammed by the defense, team doctors generally would ask him how he felt and whether he could follow a finger with his eyes.
"They'd ask you questions, basic questions. Where are you, what day is it? Stuff like that. And if you were able to answer that and seem like you were OK, they would let you back in."
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120920/COL03/309200056/Doc-Why-NFL-loves-its-pocket-QBs“If (your QB) has nothing but a higher yards per attempt average than the other team’s quarterback, you win 80 percent of the time,’’ he says. The other team’s guy can have more yards, completions, touchdowns, whatever. If his YPA is less, you win, he loses. Eight games out of 10. After two weeks this year, the record is 27-5: 84.4 percent.
Normally i write long posts, when you or someone else in the forum come up with one word that describes what i wanted to say.Alpe d'Huez said:
Yes i heard of it last year. Big Mäc was my hero in the 80´s, so i keep updated... There was also a good article and interview on ESPN today, with much old pics. Problem is my loudspeakers are still broken. So i missed all important videos since July (about Armstrong for example), and this one. Funny part is he would change to baseball if he could go back in time. I am the other way around, I´d change from baseball to my first love football... Long live Da 85 Bears. The greatest & funniest team ever.Merckx index said:Foxxy, did you know that McMahon is one of the more than two thousand or so former players suing the NFL? That he suffers from early stage dementia?
Is Kelly Byrne Foxxy’s real name? Sure sounds like him:
I guess you guys who are having trouble with your picks should try that.
Funny, I always thought of Foxxy as a Fritz or Herbert.Alpe d'Huez said:Since Foxxy is from Germany, I always assumed his name was something like Jan, or Erik. And his last name were something like Ulrich, or Zabel. I mean, you never know...
And I thought it was maybe my tinted glasses. Delighted to see that our real expert was also suitably impressed by RG3!FoxxyBrown1111 said:................
Edit: Of the half game i saw of this season, one thing is clear. RG3 has the best arm since Davey, and if looking at NFL "only", since Cunningham. Better than Vick, Newton or Elway. So if he can learn faster than what Cunningham needed 15 years to learn (dropping back regulary, and zipping the ball all over the field, short, long, outside, on the run, whatever), RG3 should be very successful in the near future. You could see it on TV. Brees´passes seemed to travel 50% slower than RG´s. Actually this great SB-QB looked like a poor kid in direct comparison...
I know it was you Amsterhammer. That's why I posted the comment about hand egg right after your post. I gotta try and keep that hand egg thing to a minimum.Amsterhammer said:Uh, that was me. I posted a pic that I thought was amusing.
Alpe d'Huez said:Annoying article in one regard. Once again, a black quarterback comes along and is compared to another black quarterback (or two in this case). I wrote about this in detail about 50 posts ago, if anyone wants to read back.
Since Foxxy is from Germany, I always assumed his name was something like Jan, or Erik. And his last name were something like Ulrich, or Zabel. I mean, you never know...
Pretty close, my Opa´s name was Fritz!Amsterhammer said:Funny, I always thought of Foxxy as a Fritz or Herbert.
And I thought it was maybe my tinted glasses. Delighted to see that our real expert was also suitably impressed by RG3!
The link was painfully slow so I closed it, but the only interest I had was to see where those assclowns put JJ Watt. The fact he was not in the top 5 at a minimum shows their idiocy.Alpe d'Huez said:Nice of Goddell to fess up. Like I said, you guys think he's bad, imagine Pat McQuaid running the NFL.
That top 100 players so far list was interesting. Clay Matthews was a beast two years ago. Maybe the best LB in the NFL. Last year, he dropped way off. Now, he's carrying a much improved Packers defense on his back again. But their offense is sputtering some.
Agree with Matt Ryan as well. He's the reason the Falcons are 3-0, and he's playing at Tom Brady's level. Matt Schaub and Arian Foster could be higher, especially considering how well Houston is playing. Kevin Kolb should be higher than 85 also, for the same reasons. I mean, he's below Carson Palmer (though Palmer has stepped up).