- Jun 15, 2009
I know you mean the non-PI calls against Smith defending Crabtree. Those will not be settled by any discussion here or anywhere. But we can take the edge off a bit. First, been there done that... I mean I've seen my team on the bad end of SB officiating, as have other teams. So for the SF fans, I can empathize. Second, there are a few officials who might call PI, but I think most would not for several reasons. The holding started inside the 5 yard allowed area, but continued beyond the 5 yards. After that, here's what I think happened: some official had his hand on the flag but stuffed it back in his pocket after seeing Crabtree give a push off on Smith's helmet. I don't have a link, but look at the replay in slow motion. At normal speed, I was thinking 'Why did Smith fall down?' It was a shove to Smith's helmet by Crabtree that caused Smith to go down. That shove may have resulted in the non-call on that final play. That shove was either incidental or out of frustration, but in the end they call them both (the grab by Smith and the shove by Crab) incidental.FoxxyBrown1111 said:What a mess in the end. I mean the non-calls.
And where are the good old blow-outs? I am not convinced that SB-Defenses can´t hold a big lead for ten straight years. It´s very dubious. Very.
I think i´ll do the next season as this one: Skip the regular season, and bet the underdogs in the playoffs. The path to winning for two years now since i am doing this. It´s easy money.
Speaking as a Seattle fan who had to watch a Super Bowl given to Pittsburgh these calls weren't as bad as recent games. The possible PI call against Smith was visible from a video angle the Official's couldn't see. Tough but how it worked out.on3m@n@rmy said:I know you mean the non-PI calls against Smith defending Crabtree. Those will not be settled by any discussion here or anywhere. But we can take the edge off a bit. First, been there done that... I mean I've seen my team on the bad end of SB officiating, as have other teams. So for the SF fans, I can empathize. Second, there are a few officials who might call PI, but I think most would not for several reasons. The holding started inside the 5 yard allowed area, but continued beyond the 5 yards. After that, here's what I think happened: some official had his hand on the flag but stuffed it back in his pocket after seeing Crabtree give a push off on Smith's helmet. I don't have a link, but look at the replay in slow motion. At normal speed, I was thinking 'Why did Smith fall down?' It was a shove to Smith's helmet by Crabtree that caused Smith to go down. That shove may have resulted in the non-call on that final play. That shove was either incidental or out of frustration, but in the end they call them both (the grab by Smith and the shove by Crab) incidental.
As for SB defences, I will comment only on this game. I cannot stress enough how important the DLinemen are to the linebackers. DLinemen that get blown back 2 or 3 yards cut off the paths of the LBs to the ball. But DLineman who are able to hold gaps creates space for the LBs to flow to the ball. BAL lost Ngata to injury during the game. Up to that point, the BAL D was able to stop the SF running game. But after Ngata was lost SFs running game got going, which took pressure off Kaep and helped the SF passing game. Then fatigue began to set in on the BAL defense. So that is why I think the BAL defense could not hold the lead. I would not call that dubious. But it is the way it goes sometimes.
This year's draft will be weak at QB and RB, though there are a few bright spots. But nothing like 2012. This should make veterans like Alex Smith and Matt Flynn more highly sought after. WR does not have a lot of marquee players, but there are a few gems there, plus WR is deep... meaning teams could pick up a good WR in later rounds. Other than that the other positions look like:Alpe d'Huez said:So, that's all I have for now. This year's combine, pro-day and draft is going to be one of the weakest in years, and generate nowhere near the excitement as last season, but I'll be here to write about it anyway. The off-season trades, and signings should help keep the conversation going, if only a little bit. Realistically, the spring classics through the Tour are cycling. But the rest of the year is football to me.
Agree, he should not be down on himself. Kaep played pretty well overall. He is definately one of those QBs who can lead a team to a SB victory. Disappointment is understandable though. NFC West is going to be very tough & interesting for the next decade. Including the Rams, who are on the rise.Merckx index said:Kaepernick is disappointed, but he shouldn't be...
I like it! I'm going to go with Seattle over Texas, 38-30.FoxxyBrown1111 said:Looking forward next playoffs. My early pick is Cleveland Browns (after going 9-7) beating the 10-6 SL Rams in the SB by a score of 37-34.
ESPN’s Mel Kiper has Joeckel third:Joeckel fared well against the likes of Alabama and LSU this season. His balance and ability to recover in pass protection stand out, and he takes good angles and is able to get to the second level in the run game.
Gil Brandt of NFL.com has Joeckel ranked as his top prospect:Joeckel has the ability to take away good pass-rushers. There’s very little to not like. He has a ton of experience, starting on the left since his freshman season. He can really drive people in the run game, even if he gets questions on how nasty he is as a finisher. The feeling now is he’s a safe bet to be the first OT taken.
LINK TO QUOTESJoeckel is the same type of player as Jake Long, who was taken with the No. 1 overall pick by the Dolphins in 2008. A junior, Joeckel has great size and athletic ability, as well as really good hand placement.
Kiper is a tool, even by ESPN standards, and they are filled with them there.on3m@n@rmy said:[rabbit trail... tho Kiper's image as expert took a bit of a hit after his rant against Jon Gruden about how Wilson would not make it as an NFL QB.]
It's an interesting situation because both are paid well, under low-guarantee contracts. Meaning the teams can trade them, release them, or push other teams to pay a premium for them in a sign and trade deal. But Alex should not sit next season. You don't put up the numbers he did this season and sit on the bench. That doesn't mean he'll be great, but he's better than half the starting QB's in the league right now. That translates into a starting job. My guesses are KC, AZ, Buffalo, NYJ, or Jax, in that order. One could argue Minnesota, Philly, Oakland, and a few others could play fish too. Good link to Smith and Flynn's situations. We'll know more after March 12.Interesting discussion points you bring up about the Cards QB situation. Makes sense for the CARDS to try for Smith (or Flynn), but do you think 9ers or Hawks would trade their #2 QB to a conference rival?
Define "elite". If forced to say yes/no, I'll say yes. If I were to rank QB's I'd say his stock was previously too low, lower even than Foxxy and I were saying. But it may quickly get higher than he's worth. I'd still rank him behind Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and maybe Ryan and PM. But higher than Eli, Stafford, and whomever else you want to put next (Kaepernick? RG3? Wilson? Big Ben? Rivers? Luck?).Amsterhammer said:Is Flacco now "elite" on the basis of his post season, SB and MVP?
Nope. I don't think any QB is worth that much, same as you. No player is. And a QB, while the team leader, is still 1/11 on offense. I'm pretty sure PM makes something like $19m this year, which is too high. But you also have to think in terms of relativity. Michael Vick was paid something like $15m this year. Carson Palmer were paid about $13m. He should make more than those overpaid guys, right? Eli was paid $13m, how does Flacco compare to him? Better? But Brady makes $9.75m, and Rodgers $8m. Should Flacco make more than them?If so, is he 'worth', and should he get 20m?
Why? Your hero will heal and be back, and if it takes a bit, you have one of the most promising young backups in the league in Cousins. As to the wait and off-season, last year we did pretty good. I actually find the time between now and the draft refreshing. We get to see the future of the sport and with it hope and promise, as opposed to dwelling on retiring players with broken bodies and lawsuits. I like following the combine and pro days for players, and Gruden will be back again with his QB camp and excellent scouting of players. I personally have a hard time being motivated during May-July, but that's what the Giro and Tour are for.This is gonna be a horrible and long off season for me.
Flacco was always elite, as at least 90 other QB´s are in the NFL. That includes all starters, backups and practise squad QB´s minus those who made it to the NFL, but no one of us knows why (like for example Charlie Frye).Amsterhammer said:My first humble contribution to keeping this topic alive during the dead season is to ask my incredible knowledgeable and well informed friends here the following two questions: -
Is Flacco now "elite" on the basis of his post season, SB and MVP?
If so, is he 'worth', and should he get 20m? (Not that anyone should get amounts like that.....)
This is gonna be a horrible and long off season for me......
I agree that at some positions teams will definately want to move down. But there are a few positions that are deep but without many elite players. WR is one. Teams in need of WR may be tempted to move up to grab one of the higher rated guys. But if there are not many teams wanting to move up, then a team wanting to move up may not have to give up quite as much (as they would if there were a lot of teams clammoring for someone). So, put another way, there could be opportunities for moving up if most other teams prefer to move down. One thing's for sure, this draft's dynamics are completely different from last year.» Reid, meanwhile, put a sale sign on the Kansas City Chiefs' No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. Expect a lot of teams to look into moving down in this deep draft. Few teams will want to move up.