New Auto Blood Doping Test

This is largely a puff piece.

Science may be able to detect PED use, but there's the problem of forcing the IOC to use the test to expell athletes. And then there's the sports federation who won't want the new tests run under any conditions in 2012.

Historically, the IOC 'studies' the test to get an idea beforehand of how many positives new procedures will dredge up. Too many positives and they'll make up a reason not to run it. This gives the IOC time to let the federations clean up before the next Olympics in 2016.

As much as Science may have answers, the politics of sport blocks advancement because it threatens the money coming in.
 

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DirtyWorks said:
This is largely a puff piece.

Science may be able to detect PED use, but there's the problem of forcing the IOC to use the test to expell athletes. And then there's the sports federation who won't want the new tests run under any conditions in 2012.

Historically, the IOC 'studies' the test to get an idea beforehand of how many positives new procedures will dredge up. Too many positives and they'll make up a reason not to run it. This gives the IOC time to let the federations clean up before the next Olympics in 2016.

As much as Science may have answers, the politics of sport blocks advancement because it threatens the money coming in.
I must admit, that the headline of this thread I was expecting more.

Sadly, I have to agree - it is the first "we are tough on doping" piece we will hear about on the run up to this Olympics.
The line "don't come to London" if you want to cheat - when we know that most of the serious doping is done long before that.

It would be fantastic if a test for autologous blood doping came out before the Olympics but until there is then this Olypics is not any 'cleaner' than others.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
This is largely a puff piece.

Science may be able to detect PED use, but there's the problem of forcing the IOC to use the test to expell athletes. And then there's the sports federation who won't want the new tests run under any conditions in 2012.

Historically, the IOC 'studies' the test to get an idea beforehand of how many positives new procedures will dredge up. Too many positives and they'll make up a reason not to run it. This gives the IOC time to let the federations clean up before the next Olympics in 2016.

As much as Science may have answers, the politics of sport blocks advancement because it threatens the money coming in.
IOC? Money coming in? what about going out?

at what level are people willing to start and continue. Are we going to have an extra 500 bucks per player for girls youth 9 to 11 yo soccer? When will the testing start? at what age? what sports?. You are totally right it's a fluff.
The IOC is ruining sport by testing everybody on a "what if" basis. Most athletes compete until 18 wo making a dime or going to any high level games of any kind.Then they are weekenders. Looking at all sport thru any IOC filter is how everybody is after each other at the local crit after a toned guy gets a result. testing is BS. Bike racing has 100s of thousands of racers world wide and a single standard would be great it will just put racing out of business in 90% of the world.
Bike racing should be totally positive, event driven testing, at every level. Top guys get tested, filler and drop outs don't, if you are doping to lose anyway who cares. If you dope to win ,you get caught. There will the guy that shifts into the small ring and sits up so he won't get tested but social pressure will take care of that at every level. across the board testing is super expensive, esp all for the sake of Olympic BS
 
Speaking today at the British Science Festival at the University of Bradford, [Cowan] said: "It's going to be the riskiest Games for cheats."
Yes, if they catch more than 1% of the dopers, that should be a new Olympic and world record.

The new detection method relies on analysing RNA, a genetic material similar to DNA, in the blood cells. Red corpuscles lack DNA, but their RNA undergoes changes when blood is stored outside the body which can be identified.
I haven’t seen this test discussed, but another approach is to examine RNA changes in white blood cells:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1423-0410.2009.01169.x/full

The idea is that when red blood cells are stored, some of their proteins are degraded. When the cells are infused, this results in an immune response that can be detected by changes in the expression of certain genes in white cells.

This is the same group that published a study of changes in hemoglobin and other passport parameters two months ago, claiming 82% sensitivity in detecting blood doping. So it’s not clear to me if they gave up on the white cell RNA approach, or if they are working on several independent tests.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21382045
 
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