Nike Oregon Project

[bigcog]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...documentary-alleged-drug-use-alberto-salazar-

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Among the reactions, a simple one by Ross Tucker is best "If you're surprised, welcome to reality." I'm going to try to catch the full documentary before more comments

Other article here: https://www.propublica.org/article/former-team-members-accuse-coach-alberto-salazar-of-breaking-drug-rules

 

[RobbieCanuck]

The first thing that tips us off as to the corruption at the Oregon Project is the word Nike. Phil Knight that master of wilful blindness has paid more money to dubious athletes to pay their PEDs suppliers, than Cracker Jack uses corn.

 

[therhodeo]

Nike funds doping. In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

 

[TheSpud]

Just watching the BBC program - talk about abuse of Thyroid and Asthma drugs. No great surprise - technically not illegal (with a TUE?).

 

[TheSpud]

No big names mentioned, but they just showed Paula ...

 

[TheSpud]

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Nike funds doping. In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.

Nike has or does sponsor the FIFA World Cup ...

 

[TheSpud]

7 Athletes have reported to USADA, seems not a lot has happened.

 

[mrhender]

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7 Athletes have reported to USADA, seems not a lot has happened.

They are still busy preventing Lance from being too popular...

Priorities are priorites....

 

[armchairclimber]

It's all grist to the mill though. In the eyes of Joe pleb, Nike managed to avoid being tainted by Lance.....despite standing by him in the face of all the evidence. If the brand is repeatedly mentioned in association with the use of PEDs, especially with regard to Rupp and Farah, it will suffer in the shops. That would be a good thing.

 

[TheSpud]

All over the 10pm News - with Salazar the focus, Farrah is mentioned a lot.

Most of the focus of the program seemed to be 'unethical' behaviour - ie misuse of TUEs, Asthma & Thyroid drugs, etc. although there was some talk of trying out various levels of Testo to see what would trigger a +ve.

 

[TheSpud]

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It's all grist to the mill though. In the eyes of Joe pleb, Nike managed to avoid being tainted by Lance.....despite standing by him in the face of all the evidence. If the brand is repeatedly mentioned in association with the use of PEDs, especially with regard to Rupp and Farah, it will suffer in the shops. That would be a good thing.

When I heard the initial bits of this with Nike being mentioned I must admit I wasn't surprised.

Will it stop me buying Nike football (soccer) boots for my lad? No, not if they are the best fit / what he wants for the £ I want to spend.

Will millions of people boycott Nike & Coke for their involvement with FIFA? Probably not ... and unfortunately that is the way life is.

 

[coinneach]

A good programme, should cause a few ripples, and a few law suits.
Heroes,,eh?

 

[SeriousSam]

 

[mrhender]

Catch me if you can... BBC pamorama documentary

Here's the link to the much sought out program..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05zhqvk/panorama-catch-me-if-you-can

Mark Daly goes on a journey to investigate serious allegations of doping in athletics, and becomes a doper himself.

You need to use Hola or the likes if you are outside GB....

 

[mrhender]

UKAD reacts:

http://www.ukad.org.uk/news/article/ukad-statement-following-bbc-panorama-programme/

Following the BBC Panorama programme "Catch Me If You Can", UKAD Chief Executive Nicole Sapstead said:

"The news tonight reflects the challenge we face to ensure athletes and sports events in the UK are protected from doping.

"Exposing doping athletes and their support network is a responsibility that rests with everyone involved in sport.

"We encourage anybody with information about doping in sport to contact us as it is essential to UKAD’s investigations.

"Our deterrence and detection programme thrives on intelligence and we are firmly committed to taking every opportunity to expose serious dopers and those who drive doping decisions."

 

[mrhender]

WADA comments as well:

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2015-06/wada-statement-on-bbc-panorama-documentary

We have carefully viewed the BBC Panorama One’s programme which includes some allegations suggesting doping in athletics.

Among these, the programme alleges practices relating to coach Alberto Salazar of the Nike Oregon Project in the United States. Any investigation will be a matter for the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) and the IAAF, and the relevant information shall be passed to them.

We acknowledge that the programme also raises questions regarding the ability of athletes to dope by taking minimal amounts of performance enhancing substances without testing positive, otherwise known as ‘micro-dosing’. It is an issue that we are exploring in great detail with experts from across the anti-doping community, and indeed it was highlighted in the recent Cycling Independent Reform Commission (CIRC) Report.

Due to short detection periods for EPO and certain other banned substances, we now know that tests need to be carried out before competition and in certain circumstances overnight (from 11:00pm – 06:00am) as is set out in WADA’s revised International Standard for Testing.

While the programme suggests that the journalist, through his experiment, was able to enhance his performance without recording an adverse analytical finding (AAF), we haven’t been provided any information that would validate this allegation nor is there anything in the programme which would indicate that his profile would have “beaten” the ABP programme.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Sounds exactly like the other doping program conducted - same program, same WADA response.

Laughable.

 

[ferryman]

I've merged the posts from the thread mrhender started into here in case anyone is wondering where their posts (or thread) have/has gone! I've PMd you mrhender with an apology why I couldn't let you know in your thread..

 

[blackcat]

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thats the lufthanser suicide murderer pilot in the USA nike tracksuit on the left.

can run, cant fly for $hit

 

[Cloxxki]

While I have little hope that any of the implicated are innocent or even just half-guilty, in their defense the BBC has been eroding its relevance off a very steep curve of late. Why the BBC?

So recently soccer nation #1 USA going after FIFA official for, get this, corruption. Was that an Onion story line? No, it wasn't.

After having been caught falsifying (fully staging, enacting) world-changing "breaking" news stories, and even reporting on impossible to predict ones well before they happened...
It seems BBC are now using a painful truth to direct the public's attention away from something in fact (and people will gasp to read this from me) worse than doping. Keep your eye on alternative news outside sports the next few weeks/months. Something ugly it going to bumped to Page 2. Probably already today. As with Boston. As with MH17. Something way worse for the establishment never made the news those days.

Will USADA get enough room and funds to go after these lowlifes, or only long enough to keep it in the news?

I am not sold on this being the next Lance case. Although I do hope Salazar burns. And his hypocritical runners.

 

[Eagle]

I remember a lot of talk about Salazar's past after the Olympics but can't remember the details, anyone know much about him?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

So the BBC comes to the states to blow the cover off doping, while Walsh and all the other ostriches pretend that Sky is walking between the raindrops...p!ss off back to your island and take care of your own sh!t.

Salazar doping athletes is old news, as is Nike's blindness to needle junkies. Shocker in the UK I guess?

 

[coinneach]

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So the BBC comes to the states to blow the cover off doping, while Walsh and all the other ostriches pretend that Sky is walking between the raindrops...p!ss off back to your island and take care of your own sh!t.

Salazar doping athletes is old news, as is Nike's blindness to needle junkies. Shocker in the UK I guess?

It's a shocker in mainstream media, just because you "knew" before, doesn't mean everyone did.

And it was a more balanced programme than you give it credit for:
Part one: exposure for first time on TV of allegations against Scotland's greatest living athlete
Part two: demonstration of ease of cheating, buying epo over Internet, microdosing for 8 weeks, seeing 7% improvement in VO2 max while bio profile remained within acceptable limits
Part three: allegations against Salizar, including witness testimony. Most of this investigation was done by a journalist in the USA .
Personally, I found the second part the most chilling, I guessed it wasn't difficult to cheat, but I didn't think it would be quite THAT easy. Made the Lone Wolf scenario of doping believable, as well as the Big Bucks team approach.

With the media storm around FIFA, it doesn't make cycling look like the odd one out

 

[ebandit]

Re: paula

No big names mentioned, but they just showed Paula ...

don't forget paula's asthma....long socks....disappearing to altitude training for long periods...guru trainers
............mythical training tales.............and yes! those golden tears

no surprises in the BBC documentary.............mirror image of what we hear from cycling

Mark L