MvdP is a beast in mountainbike as well. That is not for Van Aert, but I wonder what he could do on the track. I think he'd do a very good pursuit.
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Dekker_Tifosi said:It's clear both WvA and MvdP were super exceptional and it's no miracle everyone in CX bar Toon Aerts kept losing to them
Now it shows even the best sprinters, classic riders and tt specialists are losing to either Van Aert or Van der Poel. They are once in a generation talents, well, in this case twice in a generation
Dekker_Tifosi said:Nah, I don't think there's anything special. Afaik Nys was nowhere on the road and he trained like a total maniac.
I just think Van Aert and Van der Poel have been pushing eachother to the limit so many times they just pushed further ahead than anyone else in that sport has. And that is showing on the road.
Bonimenier said:With Rohan Dennis gone, I don't see who can hold Van Aert from his 2nd victory this Tour tomorrow. What a tourdebut that would be.
Valv.Piti said:Cannot see anyone else than Thomas threatening Wout tomorrow. Really rooting for him!
Dekker_Tifosi said:Same really, WvA or Thomas, don't see who else will come close.
Can you think how crazy that is? It's his first season at a WT team, after showing classics potential at a PCT team. And nobody bats an eye he is the favorite for the TT and for tougher sprint stages as well.
:lol:
Logic-is-your-friend said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Same really, WvA or Thomas, don't see who else will come close.
Can you think how crazy that is? It's his first season at a WT team, after showing classics potential at a PCT team. And nobody bats an eye he is the favorite for the TT and for tougher sprint stages as well.
:lol:
Don't know if you're insinuating anything, but i guess not just his, but also Mathieu's achievements kind of support the notion that they are just (both) insanely talented. Not to start another WVA vs MVDP discussion, i think they form a frame of reference for each other, now on the road. After Wout's 3rd place in Strade, Mathieu's high profile wins weren't as much of a surprise. And now Wout's results in the TDF, are in turn, also not so surprising anymore.
Logic-is-your-friend said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Same really, WvA or Thomas, don't see who else will come close.
Can you think how crazy that is? It's his first season at a WT team, after showing classics potential at a PCT team. And nobody bats an eye he is the favorite for the TT and for tougher sprint stages as well.
:lol:
Don't know if you're insinuating anything, but i guess not just his, but also Mathieu's achievements kind of support the notion that they are just (both) insanely talented. Not to start another WVA vs MVDP discussion, i think they form a frame of reference for each other, now on the road. After Wout's 3rd place in Strade, Mathieu's high profile wins weren't as much of a surprise. And now Wout's results in the TDF, are in turn, also not so surprising anymore.
I think it'd be cool if WvA won, but I think GT and EB are going to destroy people. Destroyhayneplane said:I looked at the odds for the time trial and whilst I think Wout is a worthy favourite for the stage 4/5 is way too skinny to take on. There are lots of decent TTers in the race but most of those have been worked hard for other team objectives and could lack freshness or have not shown too much recent form against the clock.
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Didn't matter in the Dauphine (where Kruijswijk already rode with them)Flamin said:Wout ain't riding with custom made TT bars yet, apparently. Only Roglic and Kruijswijk in the team. Makes a 30" difference over an hour long TT.
Ripper said:I think it'd be cool if WvA won, but I think GT and EB are going to destroy people. Destroyhayneplane said:I looked at the odds for the time trial and whilst I think Wout is a worthy favourite for the stage 4/5 is way too skinny to take on. There are lots of decent TTers in the race but most of those have been worked hard for other team objectives and could lack freshness or have not shown too much recent form against the clock.
A tough one to call and a lot of each way value for cycling fans who like to add to their interest with a little bet.
I generally think thomas is a bit overrated in TT's. Does he have any prestigious TT win except the 2017 Düsseldorf TT? (which he won in front of küng and past his prime kiryienka btw, not exactly 2009 cancellara)Dekker_Tifosi said:bEcAuSe It'S cOoL aNd InEoS iS tHe BeSt
Bernal isn't going to destroy anybody tho. Top 15 would be nice for him.
And I've yet to see a real good TT by Thomas this year. Not convinced he'd win
Last year he would have won comfortably the TT at the Tour in front of both Dumoulin and Froome without softpedaling the descent and the corners in the finale to avoid risks since he was sure of his GC win.Gigs_98 said:I generally think thomas is a bit overrated in TT's. Does he have any prestigious TT win except the 2017 Düsseldorf TT? (which he won in front of küng and past his prime kiryienka btw, not exactly 2009 cancellara)Dekker_Tifosi said:bEcAuSe It'S cOoL aNd InEoS iS tHe BeSt
Bernal isn't going to destroy anybody tho. Top 15 would be nice for him.
And I've yet to see a real good TT by Thomas this year. Not convinced he'd win
Sure he is good, but he is no dumoulin and not even as good as froome when it comes to time trials. Van Aert is the more likely winner imo.