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Peyroteo94

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I don't know that he was strong enough to win himself.
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The problem is we never know because he never gets the opportunity to fight for the win. He was the only rider able to follow MVP, not Remco. If Pogacar was here, Remco would not win this race because MVP would go alone with him and WVA. Remco is overachieving because WVA is always blocking the race for him so all races play in Remco's strenghts.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
He is such a loser. Where is his winning mentality? He is always playing the team player card and no one helps him winning sh#t. He should leave Visma and should stop racing with Remco. He neevr gets the chance to fight for the win.
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This is nonsense. Last year in Glasgow Wout was the main man for the Belgium team and Remco did the early attacks as he had no chance. Same with Visma in the big races, his problem is just that VdP is slightly better than him.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
The problem is we never know because he never gets the opportunity to fight for the win. He was the only rider able to follow MVP, not Remco. If Pogacar was here, Remco would not win this race because MVP would go alone with him and WVA. Remco is overachieving because WVA is always blocking the race for him so all races play in Remco's strenghts.
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Some truth to that yet… MVDP hasn’t looked on his best this year despite his wins in Ronde and P-R. He did an okay race at LBL but since then very bleak. And then Wout has slowly pieced himself back again but only just that. It would be a very sad day for cycling if these two begin to fade away this early in their careers but clearly they are both not at their best. Should they regain their peaks riders like Remco will not have much to do at races like MSR, SB, RVV and PR and will have serious issues on eg LBL. Only Pog will be a real contender. I would love to see WVA get a big win soon!
 
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Eddy Evenepoel said:
So he was with Vacek, VDP and Pidcock, and not with Alaphilippe when he crashed as I’m sure I read somewhere else. Ala was in the group that fought for the bronze on the final km, Pidcock, VDP and Vacek never made it there.
never a good thing to crash, but also a small positive that the crash didn’t affect his medal chance.
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Yeah the medals was long gone when he crashed. He marked MVP beautifully and prevented a last ditch effort from MVP to bridge to Remco(would have been incredibly hard if not impossible to do even if he had gotten free.)
 
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So the general consensus is that Worlds this year is too hilly for Wout, right?

With him headed to the Vuelta after the Tour, that's gonna be a lot of fatigue to carry into that race.
 
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stonerider said:
He didn't prevent MVP from bridging...MVP didn't have the watts to bridge to Remco as he, like Wout, wasn't in top shape.
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Maybe. Wout certainly prevented him from trying as he sat up when he couldn’t shake Wout(smart move), but MVP did make Pedersen and a lot of others look like tourists on the climb.

But yeah at that point Remco was too far gone already for any wattage MVP (or anyone else) had ever done to make up for; but I don’t think he necessarily knew how big the gap was.
 
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Some truth to that yet… MVDP hasn’t looked on his best this year despite his wins in Ronde and P-R. He did an okay race at LBL but since then very bleak. And then Wout has slowly pieced himself back again but only just that. It would be a very sad day for cycling if these two begin to fade away this early in their careers but clearly they are both not at their best. Should they regain their peaks riders like Remco will not have much to do at races like MSR, SB, RVV and PR and will have serious issues on eg LBL. Only Pog will be a real contender. I would love to see WVA get a big win soon!
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CX WC (nearly perfect season), decides race for teammate win at MSR, solo win RVV, solo win PR is a pretty good year for a guy not at his best. LBL, TT's, GTGC, Lombardia, sure. But I doubt MVDP is too worried about the likes of Remco at MSR, SB, RVV or PR. One guy has 7 wins and one guy has zero starts. And if MVDP had started on the road and focused solely on it at the age Remco started he'd likely have 15 wins in those races.
 
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CX WC (nearly perfect season), decides race for teammate win at MSR, solo win RVV, solo win PR is a pretty good year for a guy not at his best. LBL, TT's, GTGC, Lombardia, sure. But I doubt MVDP is too worried about the likes of Remco at MSR, SB, RVV or PR. One guy has 7 wins and one guy has zero starts. And if MVDP had started on the road and focused solely on it at the age Remco started he'd likely have 15 wins in those race
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Agree but at the Tour he just didn’t look the same. Now I wish he gets another WC win and prove my doubts wrong. A fight to the line between MVDP and WVA after having obliterated Pog and Remco :)
 
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CX WC (nearly perfect season), decides race for teammate win at MSR, solo win RVV, solo win PR is a pretty good year for a guy not at his best. LBL, TT's, GTGC, Lombardia, sure. But I doubt MVDP is too worried about the likes of Remco at MSR, SB, RVV or PR. One guy has 7 wins and one guy has zero starts. And if MVDP had started on the road and focused solely on it at the age Remco started he'd likely have 15 wins in those races.
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If MVDP and Remco does Strade in 2025 in similar shape, Remco wins. And its not even close. RVV is a very interesting prospect for Evenepoel as well.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
He is such a loser. Where is his winning mentality? He is always playing the team player card and no one helps him winning sh#t. He should leave Visma and should stop racing with Remco. He neevr gets the chance to fight for the win.
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Watching how attentive he was tracking Matteo I couldn't help but think it was as important to him that Matteo didn't get back to Remco's wheel. I feel a generational shift and it may, again; upset the Visma Consortium. Will it mean a good rider must leave to get their shot? Yeah, I'm feeling like that may be coming.
 
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