OP code names

[Tyler'sTwin]

Is there a list of all the OP code names used by Fuentes? I know Piti, AC, Birillo and Jan, but how many of these names were actually made public yet never linked to a certain rider?

 

[roundabout]

Will a link to wikipedia do?

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operación_Puerto

Scrolll down to the middle of the article.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Thank you! Those code names weren't as revealing as I had hoped. Apart from Tor of course. Surely that isn't a certain norwegian who has never seen drugs? LOL!

 

[ak-zaaf]

I thought Urco was supposed to be Oscar Pereiro and Classicomano Luigi was Thomas Dekker?

Pure nonsensical speculation: Huerta is Spanish for Orchard(?), which in Dutch is Boomgaard which sounds a lot like...

ah, nevermind.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

PDF p38

Page 33 (and 40) of this pdf also in Spanish might be an earlier source.

It's listed as ref 43 on that Wikipedia page.

 

[Escarabajo]

Sevilla's code name really sucks. Couldn't they have worked a little harder on the codes.

Sevillano=Sevilla

 

[The Hitch]

Sevilla's code name really sucks. Couldn't they have worked a little harder on the codes.

Sevillano=Sevilla

Yep, whats the point of the code names anyway?

Im surprised how many names there are there. Did Fuentes treat all those cyclists???

Personaly I would like to see more information about the other sports. Which of Spains football and tennis gods are on there? Why is our thing singled out

 

[Magnus]

Does anybody know why AC is assumed to be Contador on the spanish wiki?

 

[hrotha]

Does anybody know why AC is assumed to be Contador on the spanish wiki?

If I recall correctly, "AC" was found in a list of training and/or doping schedules along with other initials that have been identified as Liberty riders.

 

[roundabout]

Because Contador said so himself

Contador said on Saturday that his name had mistakenly turned up in the Puerto file.

"I was in the wrong team at the wrong time and somehow my name got among the documents," Contador said, adding cycling's governing body corrected the mistake.

 

[MacRoadie]

Contador said on Saturday that his name had mistakenly turned up in the Puerto file.

"I was in the wrong team at the wrong time and somehow my name got among the documents," Contador said, adding cycling's governing body corrected the mistake.

Nuff said...

 

[Anonymous]

Nuff said...

So, trying to read between the lines.... AC's check didn't bouce last time but did this time? Or was the cover-up fee much larger this time, or both?

 

[luckyboy]

I thought AC was supposed to be another code for Angel Casero?

Also, it says Sansone=Santi Botero - wasn't Michele Bartoli=Sansone?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Here's the CN article with some of the names.

About two years ago on here we wrote a long thread breaking all of the names down as best we could. I'd say there were only a handful we weren't able to at least tie some probable name to. I'll see if I can find it. A cursory search did not. I don't have the time/energy right now to do it again, but will try later to look.

"AC" appeared in the margins, not in the blood book list so to speak. Contador later admitted he met Fuentes several times, but only for training, diet and such, and was happy to cooperate with any test they wanted to give him.

 

[Anonymous]

Here's the CN article with some of the names.

About two years ago on here we wrote a long thread breaking all of the names down as best we could. I'd say there were only a handful we weren't able to at least tie some probable name to. I'll see if I can find it. A cursory search did not. I don't have the time/energy right now to do it again, but will try later to look.

"AC" appeared in the margins, not in the blood book list so to speak. Contador later admitted he met Fuentes several times, but only for training, diet and such, and was happy to cooperate with any test they wanted to give him.

Oh, same as Frank Schleck then.

It's getting harder to believe AC by the minute.

 

[The Hitch]

Oh, same as Frank Schleck then.

It's getting harder to believe AC by the minute.

Frank Schleck was caught giving thousands of dollars to Fuentes. Bit different.

 

[roundabout]

the only difference is that Schleck paid directly while Saiz made the arrangements for Contador

Edit: didn't Contador initially deny knowing Fuentes personally? Although i doubt that Honorable Judge Serrano would actually care

 

[hrotha]

Fuentes said he didn't know Contador at all, so there's a contradiction right here. It's kind of weird because Contador wasn't a star at the time, unlike many of the riders who went down.

 

[roundabout]

Contador was pretty much an up and coming star

1st Setmana Catalana
3rd and 5th Pais Vasco
2nd and 4th Romandie

He wasn't even 24 by the time Puerto happened and very much one of the top riders on a massively doped team

 

[roundabout]

I thought AC was supposed to be another code for Angel Casero?

Also, it says Sansone=Santi Botero - wasn't Michele Bartoli=Sansone?

Other than your suppositions do you have anything else to support your interpretation of who AC was? It's not a first time i've seen people claim it without anything to back it up

 

[hrotha]

Contador was pretty much an up and coming star

1st Setmana Catalana
3rd and 5th Pais Vasco
2nd and 4th Romandie

He wasn't even 24 by the time Puerto happened and very much one of the top riders on a massively doped team

Up and coming star, yes, but remember virtually every single Spanish star (as far as GCs are concerned) except for Sastre was involved, and Fuentes only went out of his way to clear Contador and a few other guys. Which, again, is pretty shady, since Fuentes said he didn't know Contador, and according to what's been posted here that was a lie.

Oh well, maybe someone didn't want to tear down Spanish cycling completely so they wanted to save the younger riders like Valverde and Contador.

 

[Anonymous]

Frank Schleck was caught giving thousands of dollars to Fuentes. Bit different.

Perhaps.

A Pro cyclist going to a doctor trained in a different field for training and diet then that doctor gets busted for all things Operacion Puerto.

But AC only went for training and diet...

Frank Schleck only went to Fuentes for training and diet too.

Hmmmmm. It must be that it's just a very small world. I mean, how many gynecologists in Spain are so good at training and diet plans that pro cyclists, pro footballers and pro tennis players will flock to him for high priced advice and blood analysis? Can't be more than a few...

 

[sherer]

how come with all the nicknames it is only ones that can be linked to cycling that are out in the open, surely at least one of the names must be tracked back to another sport

 

[roundabout]

Because Lissavetzky said that only cyclists were involved. Good luck tracking other names.

 

[The Hitch]

Perhaps.

A Pro cyclist going to a doctor trained in a different field for training and diet then that doctor gets busted for all things Operacion Puerto.

But AC only went for training and diet...

Frank Schleck only went to Fuentes for training and diet too.

Hmmmmm. It must be that it's just a very small world. I mean, how many gynecologists in Spain are so good at training and diet plans that pro cyclists, pro footballers and pro tennis players will flock to him for high priced advice and blood analysis? Can't be more than a few...

Youve got me all wrong. I am firmly in the camp that ALL cyclists dope. ALL athletes dope. Of course anyone who went to Fuentes did so for more than Diet plans.

But when it comes to the question of whether Contadors and Schlecks links to Fuentes were similar, id say that there was stronger proof linking Frank to doping, because he was caught giving money.