Operation Culture Creation

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A short explanation of what this thread is about...



The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqrVCi3l6E

Mike Hagan Interviews Dr. Colin Ross About Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4XB03Bb68

History... Connected: Research Discussion on MKULTRA, Cybernetics, and Social Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akOcW-jI4y0&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLa3bLMRvk6Ho_6CvRn2Xb5-ZGRBRkcTPX

The Plane Truth ~ Laurel Canyon and the Hippie Dream ~ with Dave McGowan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5lAg_4GHk

The Best Enemies Money Can Buy - An Interview with Professor Antony C. Sutton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc

Nazis The Occult Conspiracy Complete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvWt1xmcRk

Teilhard de Chardin in the Age of Ecology by Thomas Berry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKEBQe4c7n0

Do You Believe in Magick? Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwBjLG1ULA

http://2045.com/manifest/

hahaha:eek:
 
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RetroActive said:
@ horsinabout

As Maclaren once said "I am an artist alright, a bloody big con artist". He was a middle class bourgeoisie. But listen to this http://youtu.be/E-wtmV0fAAg. An insider turned rebel so it seems.

What an ironic fellow.
Exactly...just what I thought, how ironic :)

I also agree that this belongs here in this thread.

I think it would be beneficial to the forum if you could do a write up on what your culture creation thread is about. :confused:
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
hm? if I misunderstood them I am sorry, but it seemed as he was talking about how the were destroyed,and that it was not the "official" story that was correct, but some inside job?
Again, if I misunderstood I am sorry...
One World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
US global supremacy

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan

Hi there!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
 
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Basically what I'm saying is to understand this sort of thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o

it's necessary to understand this sort of thing:
http://www.cambridge.org/ca/academic/subjects/classical-studies/ancient-history/universal-empire-comparative-approach-imperial-culture-and-representation-eurasian-history

The claim by certain rulers to universal empire has a long history stretching as far back as the Assyrian and Achaemenid Empires. This book traces its various manifestations in classical antiquity, the Islamic world, Asia and Central America as well as considering seventeenth- and eighteenth-century European discussions of international order. As such it is an exercise in comparative world history combining a multiplicity of approaches, from ancient history, to literary and philosophical studies, to the history of art and international relations and historical sociology. The notion of universal, imperial rule is presented as an elusive and much coveted prize among monarchs in history, around which developed forms of kingship and political culture. Different facets of the phenomenon are explored under three, broadly conceived, headings: symbolism, ceremony and diplomatic relations; universal or cosmopolitan literary high-cultures; and, finally, the inclination to present universal imperial rule as an expression of cosmic order.
I don't have any real comprehension of what the bolded means but I'm aware that there are people that do have a vision of what that means, and they work towards making that vision real. It's called power.

A "big idea", an ancient dream. Nothing new. Do the ends justify the means?

I suggest you start with the first docu. in the thread and decide for yourself.

9-11 info. is all over the web. If you choose to believe the official conspiracy theory that is up to you.
 
RetroActive said:
The Best Enemies Money Can Buy - An Interview with Professor Antony C. Sutton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc
I've got his "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" and his "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" on my tablet but I'm yet to read it. I of course know the main topic, I've watched several conferences of his on the net. It's enlightening. He was an amazing researcher. I've of course checked that his findings weren't delirious CT. Globally they weren't. Just a couple of mistakes here or there and things that we know today and that he could not know in his days but th connivence between US-based banksters and Trotsky and between US carmakers or oil companies and the Nazis can no longer be denied.
 
Echoes said:
I've got his "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" and his "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" on my tablet but I'm yet to read it. I of course know the main topic, I've watched several conferences of his on the net. It's enlightening. He was an amazing researcher. I've of course checked that his findings weren't delirious CT. Globally they weren't. Just a couple of mistakes here or there and things that we know today and that he could not know in his days but th connivence between US-based banksters and Trotsky and between US carmakers or oil companies and the Nazis can no longer be denied.
Not qute correct. I don't know about his book on the Soviet, but his Hitler book relies heavily on "I paid Hitler", by Fritz Tyssen, who we now know never wrote it. It was written by an american journalist Emery Reeves. We know this cause amongst other things it was written in 1941, when Tyssen was in captivity, + of course he disavowed the momoir after.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
Not qute correct. I don't know about his book on the Soviet, but his Hitler book relies heavily on "I paid Hitler", by Fritz Tyssen, who we now know never wrote it. It was written by an american journalist Emery Reeves. We know this cause amongst other things it was written in 1941, when Tyssen was in captivity, + of course he disavowed the momoir after.
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler-5.pdf

Have a look at the bibliography.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
have a look at the footnotes. for example on page 78.
Sure, the book you're discussing is there in the bibliography and footnotes, one of many sources. I've been unaware of the controversy around that particular book (until now). What about the numerous other sources he uses? Hardly "relied heavily" on one book.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Thyssen

While Thyssen was imprisoned in Germany, a biography was published in the United States in 1941 under the title I Paid Hitler. The book was written by a journalist named Emery Reves, based on memoirs dictated by Thyssen. This book supports the view that the German industrialists as a class supported and funded Hitler and put him into power. After the war Thyssen disputed the authenticity of this book, and this was upheld by the postwar denazification tribunal.[citation needed]

Thyssen was nevertheless tried for being a supporter of the Nazi Party. He did not deny that he had been a Nazi supporter until 1938, and he accepted responsibility for his companies' mistreatment of Jewish employees in the 1930s, although he denied involvement in the employment of slave labour during the war. Thyssen agreed to pay 500,000 Deutschmarks as compensation to those who suffered as a result of his actions, and was acquitted of other charges. In January 1950, he and his wife emigrated to Buenos Aires, where he died the following year. Thyssen was buried in the family mausoleum in Mülheim.[7]

In 1959, Thyssen's widow Amélie and daughter Anita Gräfin Zichy-Thyssen established the Fritz Thyssen Foundation to advance science and the humanities, with a capital of 100 million Deutschmarks. Amélie Thyssen died in 1965. Anita Gräfin Zichy-Thyssen ran the Foundation until her death in 1990. The family has no say in the running of the Foundation.
Is this supposed to be the shocking part? Operation Paperclip? Nazi ratlines? ...and all that.
 
RetroActive said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Thyssen



Is this supposed to be the shocking part? Operation Paperclip? Nazi ratlines? ...and all that.
honestly, I am not an expert on this topic (big shocker I know :p), but I have come over Sutton before, and i found a forum where it was discussed, and where atleast tih particualer book were very much critiziced but this was some years ago now, sorry.

I can try to find it if you want me to though :)

Eidt: Not to mislead you in any way. I do belive Sutton got very much right, it is just that not all of his sources were 100% reliable. Tyssens book were a memoir, and they are not necessarliy made as historically accurate as one would like them to be.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
honestly, I am not an expert on this topic (big shocker I know :p), but I have come over Sutton before, and i found a forum where it was discussed, and where atleast tih particualer book were very much critiziced but this was some years ago now, sorry.

I can try to find it if you want me to though :)

Eidt: Not to mislead you in any way. I do belive Sutton got very much right, it is just that not all of his sources were 100% reliable. Tyssens book were a memoir, and they are not necessarliy made as historically accurate as one would like them to be.
Digging around in these layers of history is very messy and dirty; a quagmire. You're correct to be wary. I can't speak to the 100% veracity of all info. presented that's for sure but it's certainly food for thought.
 

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