other countries know who rules

[Parrulo]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/other-countries-know-who-rules-says-cavendish

"barman could you please bring us a couple of hilly courses, this brits seem to be getting a bit cocky"

on a serious note tho: this is all talk and he prolly has the flat Olympic course in his mind but this may be going a bit too far.

GB is so far behind the holy trinity of current cycling(spain, italy and belgium) that is not even funny and countries like germany, france, australia and holland are imo also stronger then GB.

p.s. oh look another cav thread!!!!! we didn't have one of this in a while

 

[theyoungest]

Holland are stronger than GB? Why?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Cavendish in arrogant statement shocker... these things aren't really news anymore. But it's marketing gold, because love him or hate him, people sure talk about him.

Regarding the Olympic course, he kind of has a point. GB sure laid down a pretty solid challenge in København. And really, barring injury the only thing stopping this being a Cav sprint is Cav being dropped in the hills. Because a few times up Box Hill is not going to stop two guys that just finished on the podium of the Vuelta, that's for sure.

Oh, actually, there's one other thing stopping a sprint which you'd have to consider Cav favourite for. Froome could go solo on the first ascent of Box Hill and solo in like he's Museeuw in Roubaix 2002.

 

[Richeypen]

Cycling is all about parcours and on the right course GB are the best in the world. Granted, as soon as they include anything that resembles a speed bump that goes out the window.

No other national team could have done what GB did at the WC though.

 

[El Pistolero]

Cavendish in arrogant statement shocker... these things aren't really news anymore. But it's marketing gold, because love him or hate him, people sure talk about him.

Regarding the Olympic course, he kind of has a point. GB sure laid down a pretty solid challenge in København. And really, barring injury the only thing stopping this being a Cav sprint is Cav being dropped in the hills. Because a few times up Box Hill is not going to stop two guys that just finished on the podium of the Vuelta, that's for sure.

Oh, actually, there's one other thing stopping a sprint which you'd have to consider Cav favourite for. Froome could go solo on the first ascent of Box Hill and solo in like he's Museeuw in Roubaix 2002.

The Belgian team will do a team time trial and take up the first 5 places. Cav has no change.

Anyway we'll see who rules who at the Worlds next year.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The Belgian team will do a team time trial and take up the first 5 places. Cav has no change.

If he continues at the same rate of improvement, then by August 2012 Chris Froome would give a 5 man TTT of Cancellara, Grabsch, Martin, Wiggins and Evans a run for its money

 

[theyoungest]

If he continues at the same rate of improvement, then by August 2012 Chris Froome would give a 5 man TTT of Cancellara, Grabsch, Martin, Wiggins and Evans a run for its money

Meanwhile Cobo will win the Tour with two flat tires and a broken leg.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Meanwhile Cobo will win the Tour with two flat tires and a broken leg.

Ha!

On a more serious note, this has a chance to be the first time possibly ever that a reigning GT winner enters the following season without a team - without retirement or suspension.

 

[El Pistolero]

Ha!

On a more serious note, this has a chance to be the first time possibly ever that a reigning GT winner enters the following season without a team - without retirement or suspension.

Is there a deadline or something or can you sign at any point during the season? I guess not, so should be no problem.

 

[c&cfan]

Ha!

On a more serious note, this has a chance to be the first time possibly ever that a reigning GT winner enters the following season without a team - without retirement or suspension.

i won't let you hijack a thread that talks about one of the best cyclists ever, a true pro.

mods!! moodddsss!! come here mods!

 

[hrotha]

Is there a deadline or something or can you sign at any point during the season? I guess not, so should be no problem.

The problem is that, unless someone gets a big new sponsor during the season, there's no way Cobo will get a GT-winner's wages. He'll have to settle for a relatively modest salary. And yeah, he won the Vuelta, but I don't think many teams trust him to repeat that kind of performance. It's a risky investment.

 

[El Pistolero]

The problem is that, unless someone gets a big new sponsor during the season, there's no way Cobo will get a GT-winner's wages. He'll have to settle for a relatively modest salary. And yeah, he won the Vuelta, but I don't think many teams trust him to repeat that kind of performance. It's a risky investment.

I guess as his points won't count anymore for next season and with the current system that determines a lot of your salary.

 

[Parrulo]

Holland are stronger than GB? Why?

because they have much better riders for all kinds of terrain cept for the sprints.

i mean who is GB best cobbled classics guy? geraint thomas? i would say boom and langvelde are better then him atm, also maaskant if he manages not to almost kill himself somewhere along the season.

who is GB best hilly classics guy? honestly i can't even think of one. . .

gesink, pouls (sp?), dekker if he manages to come back at a good level, mollema and a couple others i am pretty sure i am forgetting

GT's? well they have wiggins and frome

i rate gesink, mollema, and kruijwik higher tbh because they are all young and have shown a lot of potential.

for all we know froome can be another 1 hit wonder.

holland also seems to be getting more and more fresh talent each year so ya i think holland is much better then GB when it comes to cycling

 

[Anonymous]

because they have much better riders for all kinds of terrain cept for the sprints.

i mean who is GB best cobbled classics guy?

Stannard I wouldnt like to pick who would win next year between Geraint and Lars though. mighty close.

who is GB best hilly classics guy? honestly i can't even think of one. . .

Well Cav won San Remo. Thats got hills

 

[Richeypen]

because they have much better riders for all kinds of terrain cept for the sprints.

i mean who is GB best cobbled classics guy? geraint thomas? i would say boom and langvelde are better then him atm, also maaskant if he manages not to almost kill himself somewhere along the season.

who is GB best hilly classics guy? honestly i can't even think of one. . .

gesink, pouls (sp?), dekker if he manages to come back at a good level, mollema and a couple others i am pretty sure i am forgetting

GT's? well they have wiggins and frome

i rate gesink, mollema, and kruijwik higher tbh because they are all young and have shown a lot of potential.

for all we know froome can be another 1 hit wonder.

holland also seems to be getting more and more fresh talent each year so ya i think holland is much better then GB when it comes to cycling

Except that Cav was clearly talking about the Olympics and GBs ability to control the race. In that respect GB are miles ahead of Holland

 

[Parrulo]

Except that Cav was clearly talking about the Olympics and GBs ability to control the race. In that respect GB are miles ahead of Holland

i would like to see britain control the olympic race with 5 man. that will be fun to watch.

 

[Richeypen]

Also in GTs, its all well and good talking about potential by Between Wiggins and Froome they have two GT podiums and 2 GT stage wins. The Dutch riders you mentioned have.....................?

 

[Richeypen]

i would like to see britain control the olympic race with 5 man. that will be fun to watch.

As others have said, Froome will do it all on his own

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The problem is that, unless someone gets a big new sponsor during the season, there's no way Cobo will get a GT-winner's wages. He'll have to settle for a relatively modest salary. And yeah, he won the Vuelta, but I don't think many teams trust him to repeat that kind of performance. It's a risky investment.

Well, the other opportunity is if a marquee name tests positive of course, but we'd rather not see that.

 

[Eric8-A]

Well Cav won San Remo. Thats got hills

And we have to keep in mind that Cavendish is now the best classics rider in the world now

 

[The Hitch]

By fluke today at the underground station I decided to wait for the front of the train rather than the back as usual so turned left.

By chance, i find on the bench a picture of Cavendish.

Underneath is the title "Our rivals know we rule the world".

Obviously I cannot believe my luck of finding a cycling article by chance on the bench.

It was from todays Daily Telegraph.

One of the biggest newspapers in the country. Certainatly not one where you are likely to find much about cycling outside July.

So it seems it isnt just limited to a pro British speaking cycling website.

Its in the papers too.

Which is unfortunate because Britain is getting a bit ahead of itself.

Britain are doing brilliantly and have some amazing talents, Wiggins, Millar, Froome, Thomas and of course Cav.

But such comments should be reserved for when your expecting a minum of 1 gt per year, or winning several monuments etc.

Could happen in a few years maybe but not there just yet.

 

[Mambo95]

Well, the other opportunity is if a marquee name tests positive of course, but we'd rather not see that.

Or a marquee name doesn't have a happy time at CAS later this month (I personally think he'll be OK though).

 

[Mambo95]

who is GB best hilly classics guy? honestly i can't even think of one. . .

Dan Martin. Ok, he's playing at being Irish but still...

Watch out for Kennaugh. This may be where he prospers rather than the predicted GTs.

 

[The Hitch]

Dan Martin. Ok, he's playing at being Irish but still...

Watch out for Kennaugh. This may be where he prospers rather than the predicted GTs.

Was thinking the same.

Maybe Wiggins would be quite good if he gave it a try. Didnt he win the Nats on a hill?

Froome i could of course see be very good if he tries it, too.

And Gerraint could have a Gilbert like improvement in a few years

Hes not that bad uphill, and good at the cobbled classics, or better even, at the hilly cobbled classic.

No one yet of course though.

 

[daveinzambia]

Hilly classics will go to the soon to be nationalised Colombians on team sky.

if there is something us Brits are great at in sport it is claiming foreigners as our own when they start winning. Froome, Rusedski, half the England cricket team