Paris-Nice '12: Stage 1 Dampierre-en-Yvelines - Saint-Rémy-lès-Chevreuse (ITT), 9,4 k

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Paris-Nice '12: Stage 1 Dampierre-en-Yvelines - Saint-Rémy-lès-Chevreuse (ITT), 9,4 k

04.03.2012

1. GENIEZ Alexandre 12:10:00
2. LE LAY David 12:11:00
3. NEYENS Maarten 12:12:00
4. LONGO BORGHINI Paolo 12:13:00
5. MENCHOV Denis 12:14:00
6. WYSS Danilo 12:15:00
7. DEKKER Thomas 12:16:00
8. PINEAU Cedric 12:17:00
9. MORKOV Michael 12:18:00
10. JEROME Vincent 12:19:00
11. RIGHI Daniele 12:20:00
12. FEILLU Romain 12:21:00
13. WYNANTS Maarten 12:22:00
14. FOFONOV Dmitriy 12:23:00
15. RAVARD Anthony 12:24:00
16. IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 12:25:00
17. DUMOULIN Samuel 12:26:00
18. KRUOPIS Aidis 12:27:00
19. GUTIERREZ José Ivan 12:28:00
20. THOMAS Geraint 12:29:00
21. BAKELANTS Jan 12:30:00
22. CHAVANEL Sylvain 12:31:00
23. KITTEL Marcel 12:32:00
24. COPPEL Jérôme 12:33:00
25. KAISEN Olivier 12:34:00
26. NERZ Dominik 12:35:00
27. VORGANOV Eduard 12:36:00
28. BOOKWALTER Brent 12:37:00
29. LE MEVEL Christophe 12:38:00
30. PAURIOL Rémi 12:39:00
31. NAVARRO Daniel 12:40:00
32. CHAVANEL Sébastien 12:41:00
33. ULISSI Diego 12:42:00
34. DE GENDT Thomas 12:43:00
35. RENSHAW Mark 12:44:00
36. GUARNIERI Jacopo 12:45:00
37. BOUET Maxime 12:46:00
38. BILBAO Peio 12:47:00
39. GHYSELINCK Jan 12:48:00
40. SULZBERGER Wesley 12:49:00
41. VALVERDE Alejandro 12:50:00
42. SIVTSOV Kanstantsin 12:51:00
43. IRIZAR Markel 12:52:00
44. DE WEERT Kevin 12:53:00
45. GESCHKE Simon 12:54:00
46. SIMON Julien 12:55:00
47. MEERSMAN Gianni 12:56:00
48. VIVIANI Elia 12:57:00
49. FLORENCIO CABRE Xavier 12:58:00
50. LODEWIJCK Klaas 12:59:00
51. KLIER Andreas 13:00:00
52. CASAR Sandy 13:01:00
53. JORGENSEN Jonas Aaen 13:02:00
54. BERNAUDEAU Giovanni 13:03:00
55. LLOYD Matthew 13:04:00
56. VEUCHELEN Frederik 13:05:00
57. BARREDO Carlos 13:06:00
58. GAVAZZI Francesco 13:07:00
59. ROCHE Nicolas 13:08:00
60. SICARD Romain 13:09:00
61. DI GREGORIO Rémy 13:10:00
62. WILSON Matthew 13:11:00
63. LOPEZ GARCIA David 13:12:00
64. ZANDIO Xabier 13:13:00
65. POSTHUMA Joost 13:14:00
66. MAES Nikolas 13:15:00
67. CURVERS Roy 13:16:00
68. LEVARLET Guillaume 13:17:00
69. BAK Lars 13:18:00
70. DALL’ANTONIA Tiziano 13:19:00
71. VICIOSO Angel 13:20:00
72. HUSHOVD Thor 13:21:00
73. FISCHER Murilo Antoniobil 13:22:00
74. ROY Jérémy 13:23:00
75. LUND Anders 13:24:00
76. PICHOT Alexandre 13:25:00
77. BOLE Grega 13:26:00
78. LARSSON Gustav 13:27:00
79. TEN DAM Laurens 13:28:00
80. KISERLOVSKI Robert 13:29:00
81. KADRI Blel 13:30:00
82. CAZAUX Pierre 13:31:00
83. TAARAMAE Rein 13:32:00
84. KEUKELEIRE Jens 13:33:00
85. ERVITI Imanol 13:34:00
86. KNEES Christian 13:35:00
87. MONFORT Maxime 13:36:00
88. LEIPHEIMER Levi 13:37:00
89. DEGENKOLB John 13:38:00
90. GALLAND Jeremie 13:39:00
91. BILLE Gaëtan 13:40:00
92. SZMYD Sylvester 13:41:00
93. ISAICHEV Vladimir 13:42:00
94. BURGHARDT Marcus 13:43:00
95. FERNANDEZ Koldo 13:44:00
96. GESLIN Anthony 13:45:00
97. MARYCZ Jaroslaw 13:46:00
98. ARASHIRO Yukiya 13:47:00
99. PIETROPOLLI Daniele 13:48:00
100. LEUKEMANS Bjorn 13:49:00
101. NIERMANN Grischa Jan 13:50:00
102. SEELDRAYERS Kevin 13:51:00
103. CHEREL Mikael 13:52:00
104. SAEZ Adrian 13:53:00
105. MONCOUTIE David 13:54:00
106. ALBASINI Michael 13:55:00
107. MORENO Javier 13:56:00
108. PATE Danny 13:57:00
109. VOIGT Jens 13:58:00
110. VANDENBERGH Stijn 13:59:00
111. VEELERS Tom 14:00:00
112. TALABARDON Yannick 14:01:00
113. HENDERSON Gregory 14:02:00
114. KING Edward 14:03:00
115. KRISTOFF Alexander 14:04:00
116. PHINNEY Taylor 14:05:00
117. MAASKANT Martijn 14:06:00
118. FEDRIGO Pierrick 14:07:00
119. KLOSTERGAARD-LARSEN Kasper 14:08:00
120. MALACARNE Davide 14:09:00
121. BONO Matteo 14:10:00
122. LAGUTIN Sergey 14:11:00
123. VAN WINDEN Dennis 14:12:00
124. PETROV Evgeni 14:13:00
125. MINARD Sébastien 14:14:00
126. GARCIA AMBROA Ricardo 14:15:00
127. MATE MARDONES Luis Angel 14:16:00
128. CLARKE Simon 14:17:00
129. ARROYO David 14:18:00
130. URAN Rigoberto 14:19:00
131. SCHLECK Andy 14:20:00
132. DEVENYNS Dries 14:21:00
133. DE KORT Koen 14:22:00
134. HIVERT Jonathan 14:23:00
135. DE CLERCQ Bart 14:24:00
136. CAPECCHI Eros 14:25:00
137. CARUSO Gianpaolo 14:26:00
138. MOINARD Amaël 14:27:00
139. VANMARCKE Sep 14:28:00
140. HUTAROVICH Yauheni 14:29:00
141. KROON Karsten 14:30:00
142. GAUDIN Damien 14:31:00
143. BERTAGNOLLI Leonardo 14:32:00
144. BOECKMANS Kris 14:33:00
145. MOLLEMA Bauke 14:34:00
146. KASHECHKIN Andrey 14:35:00
147. DUPONT Hubert 14:36:00
148. ANTON Igor 14:37:00
149. BUFFAZ Mickaël 14:38:00
150. HOWARD Leigh 14:39:00
151. ROJAS Jose Joaquin 14:40:00
152. PORTE Richie 14:41:00
153. SCHLECK Frank 14:42:00
154. BOONEN Tom 14:43:00
155. GRETSCH Patrick 14:44:00
156. ENGOULVENT Jimmy 14:45:00
157. HANSEN Adam 14:46:00
158. BASSO Ivan 14:47:00
159. SPILAK Simon 14:48:00
160. VAN GARDEREN Tejay 14:49:00
161. HAUSSLER Heinrich 14:50:00
162. JEANNESSON Arnold 14:51:00
163. NUYENS Nick 14:52:00
164. VOECKLER Thomas 14:53:00
165. CUNEGO Damiano 14:54:00
166. WESTRA Lieuwe 14:55:00
167. SANCHEZ Luis-Leon 14:56:00
168. BRAJKOVIC Janez 14:57:00
169. PERAUD Jean-Christophe 14:58:00
170. ASTARLOZA Mikel 14:59:00
171. VALENTIN Tristan 15:00:00
172. GERRANS Simon 15:01:00
173. KIRYIENKA Vasil 15:02:00
174. WIGGINS Bradley 15:03:00
175. KLÖDEN Andréas 15:04:00
176. MARTIN Tony 15:05:00

 

[Panda Claws]

Martin will take this one. Or Westra.

 

[bicycle_rack]

Wiggins IMO

 

[cineteq]

Wiggins IMO

Like Wiggins for this stage, and Valverde for the overall.

 

[Fetisoff]

Interesting. Why is Menchov riding it so early?

 

[DominicDecoco]

Matin not in tip top form yet is he. I call Wiggins.

 

[theyoungest]

Interesting. Why is Menchov riding it so early?

Rain is expected later in the day. Smart move, also by Dekker and Coppel, for instance.

 

[Froome19]

Matin not in tip top form yet is he. I call Wiggins.

And yet he still managed to match wiggins in Algarve and he should be in better form now....

 

[jens_attacks]

richie will take it.

 

[The Hitch]

Valverde to top 5 the prologue.

 

[Fetisoff]

Rain is expected later in the day. Smart move, also by Dekker and Coppel, for instance.

OK, didn't know that. Thanks

 

[DominicDecoco]

And yet he still managed to match wiggins in Algarve and he should be in better form now....

Martin is the better TT'er.

Better form? So is Wiggins..

 

[Raceoftruth]

Geraint Thomas going early for Sky, could spring a surprise?

 

[Froome19]

Martin is the better TT'er.

Better form? So is Wiggins..

Thats exactly my point.
Wiggins may be in better form than he was previously but i think the improvements are more for Martin than for Wiggins as Martin was indeed much poorer than Wiggins in Algarve and so there is more range for him as he was further away from his top form than Wiggins was (as shown by the fact that Wiggins was spared from the sky monster for Porte)

 

[DominicDecoco]

Thats exactly my point.
Wiggins may be in better form than he was previously but i think the improvements are more for Martin than for Wiggins as Martin was indeed much poorer than Wiggins in Algarve and so there is more range for him as he was further away from his top form than Wiggins was (as shown by the fact that Wiggins was spared from the sky monster for Porte)

So now he was much poorer? He matched Wiggins in your post 10 minutes ago? What is it going to be? Neither of them are close to top form, noone has peaked which means (since Wiggins was in better form than Martin in Algarve) that he still has the edge.

The great thing about the rider's form though is that neither of us know the riders form.

 

[Froome19]

So now he was much poorer? He matched Wiggins in your post 10 minutes ago? What is it going to be? Neither of them are close to top form, noone has peaked which means (since Wiggins was in better form than Martin in Algarve) that he still has the edge.

The great thing about the rider's form though is that neither of us know the riders form.

He matched Wiggins in TT where you admitted yourself that he is better so logically his form was worse (question is by how much) than Wiggins, his perfomance on the queen stage also suggested poor form as opposed to Wiggins who could have probably podiumed if he hadn't been working for Porte

 

[DominicDecoco]

He matched Wiggins in TT where you admitted yourself that he is better so logically his form was worse (question is by how much) than Wiggins, his perfomance on the queen stage also suggested poor form as opposed to Wiggins who could have probably podiumed if he hadn't been working for Porte

Well, that's what I've been saying the whole time? This is what I wrote to begin with? "Matin not in tip top form yet is he. I call Wiggins."


If their forms are status quo from Algarve then Wiggins should win. Luckily we don't know that and many other factors fits in.

 

[Froome19]

Well, that's what I've been saying the whole time? This is what I wrote to begin with? "Matin not in tip top form yet is he. I call Wiggins."


If their forms are status quo from Algarve then Wiggins should win. Luckily we don't know that and many other factors fits in.

Yeh but imo it is harder to increase in fitness the closer you get to peak so Wiggins would have slowed a bit more than martin so logically Martin should beat Wiggins in the TT (though certainly not overall) also if you consider that Martin technically should have beaten Wiggins in Algarve if it wasnt for a dog.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Yeh but imo it is harder to increase in fitness the closer you get to peak so Wiggins would have slowed a bit more than martin so logically Martin should beat Wiggins in the TT

That's a stupid discussion neither of us know anything about but Martin and Wiggins themselves.

 

[Froome19]

That's a stupid discussion neither of us know anything about but Martin and Wiggins themselves.

I guess youre right, though Wiggins has been talking up his chances of winning whilst Martin has been talking down his chances so no guesses as to who is on better form

 

[Dazed and Confused]

A competitive lineup. Great.

If Evans stopped by, I think we will get close to the eventual TdF podium (ex T Martin) once we hit the coast.

Three way battle: T Martin, Wiggins and Valverde.
Leipheimer and Menchov will be close.

 

[dlwssonic]

Phinney or TJVG to do well.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Cheering for valverde to pull out the stops!....
Tony Martin FTW

 

[Eric8-A]

Wiggo or Engoulvent for me.

 

[Swede1]

Wiggins looks pretty good for the prologue. Also up there should be Van Garderen, Menchov, Martin, and Valverde. Does anyone know if this is an early season goal for Menchov? He could get the win based on his form in andalucia.