Paul Sherwen exposed as doper

Aug 2, 2012
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..........how long has sherwen been on the telly?....of course he's keeping up appearances...

Mark L
 
May 26, 2010
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Surely it is doping that keeps those 2 idiots in a job, but thankfully in the good ol us of a.
 
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sniper said:

Sherwen never saw doping in the 80's because he was always riding in the grupetto. Hard to see much when you are in the back of the pack. Though perhaps HE was riding clean, or else he just was a terrible responder. I do remember him always saying how bad of a climber he was anytime the road went uphill a bit.
 
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BullsFan22 said:
sniper said:
@bullsfan, check diggers tweet. He just got his sorry *** exposed.

LOL. I was just able to open it. I hope that gets relayed to him.
Apparently George Shaw (Raleigh team manager) kept a team diary.
His son recently spilled it on Facebook.
It was then removed but as you see some people were able to get a screenshot.
 
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sniper said:
BullsFan22 said:
sniper said:
@bullsfan, check diggers tweet. He just got his sorry *** exposed.

LOL. I was just able to open it. I hope that gets relayed to him.
Apparently George Shaw (Raleigh team manager) kept a team diary.
His son recently spilled it on Facebook.
It was then removed but as you see some people were able to get a screenshot.
yup is in one of my FB groups :)
 
Aug 2, 2012
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...........story appears to have failed to make mainstream..........have details been verified factually true?

Mark L
 
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Somebody on Twitter poked Phill Liggett with it and he responded "paul was completely exonerated at the time. Nothing further to say".
That can be taken as a confirmation.

Somebody should go ask John herety if hes going to claim that gold medal from the british national road championships in 1987.
And exonerated by whom?
Is there a paralell to Sean Yates and his exoneration in 1989?
Just saying, Lots of interesting perspectives to this story.
But ftom the british press I'm not expecting anything and Paul is probably too small a fish to fry, compared to the risks of going after him. Murdoch. British Libel laws, etc.
 
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Thanks for that classico.
However it's not the end of the page yet. George speaks of a second "doping control issue" in 1984, which apparently was solved with he help of the team budget, too, and so george says he feels the team budget should not be drawn on this time.
I'm not entirely sure if this 'dope control issue' was also Paul's. I guess so, but it's ambiguous.
 
Aug 2, 2012
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....this ain't much of an exposure.........................just sayin'......................

Mark L
 
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ebandit said:
....this ain't much of an exposure.........................just sayin'......................

Mark L
What would you prefer?

It is pretty damning from the 1980s!!!!

And considering Sherwen ripped in Riccardo Ricco makes Sherwen a hypocrite as well as a doper!
 
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Gala RR - could this be a gala cycling club race? Couldn't find any details on the Web.

And Porth is in Wales.

We need some 50 year old limeys to tell us what these races were
 
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Cool, so Paul went from doping in 1987 to managing the same team he doped on in 1988. Nice way to pass along the knowledge. And grew up in Kenya.

And, here is a Wiki jem on Cookson and Mark Bell, part of the same Raleigh team as Paul:

Brian Cookson, later president of the Union Cycliste Internationale, said: "I remember, as a commissaire, following Mark throughout his successful breakaway to win the national pro road race title in 1986, when he simply rode away from some of the greatest names in the sport."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Bell_(cyclist)

The potential narratives are starting to string together for me. Sherwin meets Cookson the commissionaire in the late 80s, forms a connection, perhaps over failed drug tests resolved over pint in a pub, then 25 years later along comes a Kenyan born cyclist who gets a chance with sky. Rather than tossing him away with other failed domestiques, is it possible Paul and Brian saw a story they could sell and tell, then had experiments done with different juices and voila, alien was born. Of course this is complete conjecture, but given this is cycling, lord knows.
 
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ClassicomanoLuigi said:
What event on the British cycling calendar was in Northamptonshire in June 1987?

What are these three events on Sherwen's 1987 race schedule?

- "Westminster"
- "Porth"
- "Gala RR"
The Northamptonshire race was almost certainly a town-centre criterium in Northampton itself. Back then British pros rode little else. (The Northampton round was sponsored by Michelin in 1985, there is even a clip on YouTube!)

I think the 'Gala RR' was another criterium, held in Southport. The Southport Gala races were a long standing fixture on the calendar, held at the end of the season.

Porth is actually Porthcawl, Bridgend in south Wales, near Cardiff. The same event was won by Phil Thomas in 1986, then riding for ANC Halfords.
 
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ClassicomanoLuigi said:
Anyway, the [Somewhere] Gala Road Race must have been an event that an elite team such as Raleigh would attend. And all three races must have included prize money.

A possible explanation for the small amount of the prizes could be :splitting the money between Raleigh teammates at the event(s).
Maybe, or more likely that was all that was on offer. I know a few British 'pros' from those days and many rode for nothing more than a bike and a jersey!
 
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Random Direction said:
Of course this is complete conjecture, but given this is cycling, lord knows.
Don't let that stop you, it's pretty much SOP.

I really dislike Sherwin but this seems all a bit underwhelming.
 
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Random Direction said:
Cool, so Paul went from doping in 1987 to managing the same team he doped on in 1988.
indeed.
it's funny how the most vigorous dopers tend to stick around and have long careers in cycling.

underwhelming?
paul is underwhelming.
failed the IQ test twice. Double facepalm.

Time for Dopeology.org to update the Raleigh files.
 
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I'm putting a question mark behind him testing positive at a criterium. As far as I am aware, especially in the 70s and 80s, there would hardly be any (serious) antidoping testing. (Do correct me if wrong)
And it says "doping control issue" in George's notes, which is ambiguous.
Maybe Paul did a Phil Andersen*?

(*Phil Andersen was suspended in 1978 for failing to show up at an antidoping test after the Coors Classic. The beauty of that case is that Phil didn't know the testing at the Coors Classic was rigged anyway: samples were collected but then thrown away.)
 

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