Pereiro goes berserk

[Parrulo]

http://www.as.com/ciclismo/video/pereiro-denuncia-persecucion-ciclismo/20111118dasdascic_1/Ves

and here is a small resume of the interview for those that don't understand spanish posted by me and libertine on the general news thread in the road racing section where this link was posted.

For the most part they talk about doping in cycling, and Pereiro tries to talk to them and they shout him down and won't let him say a damn thing. He points out a few things that footballers do routinely that cause bans in cycling, and he points out that there are several things where, if a cyclist does something, the press are out there like vultures, but footballers are treated above that.

He mentions a few footballing positives (the main ones being Zinedine Zidane, Pep Guardiola and Carlos Gurpegui, whose case took on almost Valverde-like proportions being delayed and delayed). To which the moustachioed ****** next to him, who's been waving away and laughing off Pereiro's every point (if he even lets Pereiro get more than two words into it before shouting him down) starts counting it up, like "you can only think of 3". Pereiro goes on about the lack of testing and then points out bluntly, in as many words, that everybody at Barcelona is doping and everybody at Real is doping, but the authorities don't have to do anything about it because nobody cares. They bring up Fuentes, and he makes a lot of salient points about Fuentes and how Puerto has been treated and only cyclists named, and he hopes the truth comes out. To reiterate, Óscar Pereiro walked into the most chauvinist of football fan havens, and told them to their face that all their favourites are cheats.

If you want to see how football treats people who talk about doping, watch the first four minutes of the video. If you want to actually hear what Pereiro has to say, watch the last minute.

jesus he is seriously angry and slamming the truth into those idiots faces.

that guy with the grey hair is seriously ignorant and deserves a few punches in the face. he(pereiro) also calls all of spain ignorants for thinking cycling is the only sport where people dope and says that he hopes fuentes gains the courage( he actually uses the expression "cojones") for telling the whole truth about operation puerto sometime in the future. he also mentions the bags of blood labelled as "campeonato de europa" and says there is not european championship in cycling. also tells his son used to feel embarrassed in front of the neighbours because day in and day out people were at his doorstep asking for his father's blood.

 

[El Pistolero]

I'm starting to respect Pereiro again.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Great clip.

 

[hrotha]

Of course Pereiro loses points by not facing the truth and dodging all questions about his own doping, but he implies enough for every watcher with more than two brain cells to put one and one together.

 

[El Pistolero]

Of course Pereiro loses points by not facing the truth and dodging all questions about his own doping, but he implies enough for every watcher with more than two brain cells to put one and one together.

You can't expect him to just throw away his Tour title though. Perhaps one day when they can't take it away anymore.

 

[hrotha]

You can't expect him to just throw away his Tour title though. Perhaps one day when they can't take it away anymore.

He was so mad I almost expected him to do exactly that.

 

[BroDeal]

You can't expect him to just throw away his Tour title though. Perhaps one day when they can't take it away anymore.

What's it worth? No one really considers him the winner anyway.

 

[The Hitch]

That debate would make the British parliament proud.

Perreiro probably shouldnt interrupt and wave his hands so much, but hes a hero for what he says.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

That debate would make the British parliament proud.

Perreiro probably shouldnt interrupt and wave his hands so much, but hes a hero for what he says.

If they'd not talk over everything he tried to say he wouldn't have to keep interrupting and waving his hands...

 

[El Pistolero]

What's it worth? No one really considers him the winner anyway.

Well, I don't consider Floyd the winner, so Pereiro's got it. Although you're somewhat right, he's definitely the least famous Tour winner since a long long time.

 

[Parrulo]

If they'd not talk over everything he tried to say he wouldn't have to keep interrupting and waving his hands...

exactly, if i was in pereiro's situation i would have punched my way into a silent room and then i would politely express my opinion. he kept himself rather calm considering the circustances

 

[Race Radio]

Considering what idiots the hosts where he kept calm. Floyd would have punched them. What a bunch of idiots.

Thanks for the link

 

[The Hitch]

Well, I don't consider Floyd the winner, so Pereiro's got it. Although you're somewhat right, he's definitely the least famous Tour winner since a long long time.

You don't consider Floyd the winner but you say things like " We both know Andy Schleck didnt win that Tour " about 2010.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

That debate would make the British parliament proud.

Perreiro probably shouldnt interrupt and wave his hands so much, but hes a hero for what he says.

And Americano Congress proud. Sadly, I only understood one word... cojones. But with the tone and traslations provided here I was able to put one and one together. I only disagree regarding the hand waving... it seemed that all his hand waving and persistence actually seemed to wear down his opponents. Anyways, I love Oscar for this.

 

[El Pistolero]

You don't consider Floyd the winner but you say things like " We both know Andy Schleck didnt win that Tour " about 2010.

Because he didn't? Contador's case is still ongoing. He's been cleared and his appeal will keep getting delayed because the complexity of the case.

Yes, I make a difference between clenbuterol and something like testosterone. With Contador there's at least the possibility that it came from contaminated meat.

Pereiro considers him self to be the winner and that's all that matters. Of course if he admitted to doping then he wouldn't even be able to tell someone else he won the Tour anymore.

 

[hfer07]

Pereiro has just gained my respect after watching this video clip. Cycling is indeed fvcked up in many aspects, but in the doping battle compared to football-at least our sport is doing something about it. He well knows the dirty tricks & what went on while on the road, but he also happens to have friends in football too, so he gets a broader picture & the capacity to criticize them -the problem -as always- comes down to money-and the Liga is a multi-billion Euro industry that won't allow doping scandals to emerge, no matter what.....

 

[hfer07]

The raw & cruel truth

"It is truth that we have made thousands of mistakes-no doubt about it-we're fools- BUT....during Operacion Puerto" -there were many blood bags labeled "European Championship".... In cycling there is not such thing as "European Championship" therefore those bags do not belong to cyclists-but they have include them all-why? "because they (the Government Authorities) don't have the balls to uncover the truth-they lack the balls to uncover the truth of Operacion Puerto in this country"......

 

[BroDeal]

Because he didn't? Contador's case is still ongoing. He's been cleared and his appeal will keep getting delayed because the complexity of the case.

Yes, I make a difference between clenbuterol and something like testosterone. With Contador there's at least the possibility that it came from contaminated meat.

Pereiro considers him self to be the winner and that's all that matters. Of course if he admitted to doping then he wouldn't even be able to tell someone else he won the Tour anymore.

Pereiro tested positive during the 2006 Tour and was allowed to produce an after the fact TUE. His comments to the press when Landis was busted and when Landis told about Pereiro's use of artificial hemoglobin during 2006 make it clear that he was doping as well.

Taking into account Kloden's blood refill in Germany during the Tour, the entire podium of 2006 is known to have doped during that Tour. Depite that, Landis was the strongest and won on the road.

Pereiro bringing up other sports is the dope deflection policy that is currently in vogue amongst riders. They think that if they can point to something like football, it takes the heat off of cycling. It breaks down to, "No other sport is doing as much as cycling to fight doping so please forget that the top tens of our big events are peopled entirely by dopers."

 

[Velodude]

I was waiting for the fat lady in purple on the panel to sing but in the fusillade of fast Spanish she was lost for words

 

[hfer07]

Pereiro bringing up other sports is the dope deflection policy that is currently in vogue amongst riders. They think that if they can point to something like football, it takes the heat off of cycling. It breaks down to, "No other sport is doing as much as cycling to fight doping so please forget that the top tens of our big events are peopled entirely by dopers."

The problem here is that Operacion Puerto did involve highly invested sports not interested in anti-doping policies & whose money power can keep such scandals away from being published & investigated-while cycling and PAT/UCI can't do sh!t about it -so guess what happens: Cycling took the entire blame and the "unknown" athletes from other sports just kept going...

 

[forumlurker]

i wouldn't call that going berserk. i didn't understand that video, but i watched the entire thing hoping pereiro would smack the crap out of the other guy. is there a transcript and an english translation like the "no hay cojones" bit above?

 

[mewmewmew13]

Ha yes Floyd would probably have jabbed a couple of punches don't you think?
good for Periero though.
and yes thanks for the link.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Pereiro tested positive during the 2006 Tour and was allowed to produce an after the fact TUE. His comments to the press when Landis was busted and when Landis told about Pereiro's use of artificial hemoglobin during 2006 make it clear that he was doping as well.

Taking into account Kloden's blood refill in Germany during the Tour, the entire podium of 2006 is known to have doped during that Tour. Depite that, Landis was the strongest and won on the road.

Pereiro bringing up other sports is the dope deflection policy that is currently in vogue amongst riders. They think that if they can point to something like football, it takes the heat off of cycling. It breaks down to, "No other sport is doing as much as cycling to fight doping so please forget that the top tens of our big events are peopled entirely by dopers."

Evidence of him testing positive?

Defelction policy. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of others. Many on the forum may want to crap on about how bad the UCI is but compared to other sports they are at least willing to do something and are catching some of the cheats. Sports like Tennis, Swimming & Soccer/Football turn a total and utter blind eye to it all. No **** cycling has a major doping problem but bringing up other sports is not a deflection policy because certain sports commentators are total and utter hypocrites when trying to claim cycling as the only dirty sport in the world where in my opinion plenty of others are worse.

 

[craig1985]

Evidence of him testing positive?

Defelction policy. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of others. Many on the forum may want to crap on about how bad the UCI is but compared to other sports they are at least willing to do something and are catching some of the cheats. Sports like Tennis, Swimming & Soccer/Football turn a total and utter blind eye to it all. No **** cycling has a major doping problem but bringing up other sports is not a deflection policy because certain sports commentators are total and utter hypocrites when trying to claim cycling as the only dirty sport in the world where in my opinion plenty of others are worse.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-01-25-pereiro-case-dropped_x.htm

Then there are claims made by Landis in the Kimmage interview that Pereiro admitting to Landis that he had another refill before the final TT:

So there is still pressure on you going into the time trial? You still have to do it?

Yeah, exactly but I was relatively sure…I mean, I know Pereiro and I know he wasn’t going to have any new tricks that he hadn’t already tried so…I had talked to him about it and he told me that he had another blood transfusion to do but I still wasn’t concerned because I was a better time triallist than him regardless…

You talked to him about it?

Yeah, we talked openly about this in the peloton, that’s why I couldn’t believe no one did this before I did it. We literally just spoke openly; he did a blood transfusion and some artificial haemoglobin.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011...aul-kimmages-interview-of-floyd-landis_158328

 

[joe_papp]

Pereiro bringing up other sports is the dope deflection policy that is currently in vogue amongst riders. They think that if they can point to something like football, it takes the heat off of cycling.

+1million
"...takes the heat off of cycling" - and themselves.
Pereiro complaining about others' doping is rich. The only viable action after taking the TdF away from Floyd would've been to leave the 1st place vacant. Because in awarding it to Pereiro, they simply declared as winner the doper who rode the race quickest w/o getting caught. Bravo.