Poor Sportsmanship

[DAOTEC]

08:05, Thursday October 7, 2010


'Australia forced to defend poor sportsmanship'

Sydney Morning Herald: [http://smh.com.au/commonwealth-games-2010/australia-accused-of-poor-sportsmanship]

[http://straightfurrow.farmonline.co.nz/news/metro/national/sport/australia-forced-to-defend-poor-sportsmanship]


'Aussie athletes risk poor loser tag'

Sky News: [http://skynews.com.au/Aussies-thumbs-down]



What to think about Poor Sportsmanship in general?

Anybody have more examples in cyling of it?

Who's to blame?

What to do about it?
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[DAOTEC]

WE CAME, we saw, and when we didn't conquer we flipped them the bird.

The Ugly Australian loser has descended on Delhi and for once they were not wearing cricket whites.

Indians have come to expect rudeness from our cricketers. What wasn't expected was a display of petulance from our Commonwealth Games athletes as they embark on what many believe is little more than a public relations exercise.

As the relevance of the Commonwealth Games was being questioned in past weeks, Australia's Games honcho Perry Crosswhite went so far as to call them Australia's gift to the weaker nations of the region.

A chance for us to not so much flex our ample sporting muscles as to give others less fortunate the chance to play alongside us and learn.

One thing they have learned in recent days is how to raise two fingers of the hand and wave it in the general vicinity of the judging panel. Refusing to shake hands with the victorious opponent is an optional extra.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/opinion/its-...9-1225935237925?from=public_rss#ixzz11cWS2gqr

 

[Izzy eviel]

Even if they are braindead idiots, one shouldn't be abusing the officials in way.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

dim and ACF to bait one another regarding this and Cav at Romandie and yet more tedious Aussie/Brit tubthumping in 3... 2... 1...

 

[stefrees]

None of us have been sportsman in an arena where you've felt to have been unfairly disqualified. If I (ie never) was a sportsman in his situation and acted as if I was fine was his dq I'd retire with sheepishness. Commisaires are ruining cycling, it should be recently retired cyclists who are comms

 

[Boeing]

Example? Wiggo at last years worlds. Cav in my avatar

There are some athletes in any sport who have been spoon fed since birth and told too often how great they are and rarely have anyone there to tell them when or how to say no. Typically it involves someone or something to blame

It comes down to spoiled entitlement mentality where some feel they deserve it forgetting they need to earn it

parents, coaches etc to blame I guess but in the end it is the individuals decision to punk out


I will say however that we can mistake a competitive persons actions in the heat of the moment for poor sportsmanship

 

[Boeing]

Then there is the NFL Titan coach Chuck Cecil flipping off a Ref last weekend on National TV


video here and I cant ebb etc

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77e_1286202364

 

[ingsve]

I think it comes down to situation. Generally I wouldn't bother to much with situations like this when someone shows their displeasure with gestures. I find it worse when people are unsportsmanlike by breaking unwritten rules during races like attacking someone who's on a nature break or driving hard through the feed zone etc.

Having said that it doesn't exactly work in anyones favor to be rude, most of the time, unless everyone can see that they have obviously been wronged.

 

[Anonymous]

I bit of arrogance is fine when you are beating the best in the world. Arrogance and petulance is a bit much when you are beating India, Malaysia and Scottish schoolgirls

 

[M Sport]

I think John McEnroe set the perfect example of how umpires and officials should be treated

 

[Anonymous]

I think John McEnroe set the perfect example of how umpires and officials should be treated

Di Canio is the master though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFVuHrwgyY

 

[hughmoore]

I think you misinterpreted Shanes response, he was signalling to his coach that he wanted two sugars in his post race capacinno, not the usual one.


Hugh

 

[AussieGoddess]

both he and the wrestler should be sent home

It is the ultimate in poor sportsmanship and poor behaviour and reflects incredibly badly on australia. This is how we got the poor reputation in the first place

 

[PACONi]

Meh, we have a long (and proud?) history of angry sprinters (is there any other kind?). At least he didn't punch anyone in his hissy fit. Think Stephen Pate, Darryn Hill, Jobie Djaka and now Shane Perkins! He is simply respecting the athletes that came before him.

 

[Sydney Sider]

Ricky Stuart after Australia losing the Rugby League World Cup final , abused the Ref in the hotel the next day and lost his job

 

[auscyclefan94]

dim and ACF to bait one another regarding this and Cav at Romandie and yet more tedious Aussie/Brit tubthumping in 3... 2... 1...

DAOTEC, Australia is not the only team to show bad sportmanship in the past so please do not label Australians to be the only people who are bad sports. I thought his DQ was 50/50 descision. They also took a very long time to make the descision to DQ him which indicates that it was a tough descision. There are plenty of examples for other countries.

The area he did the two fingers at had no people there whatsoever.

 

[Tuarts]

Once again, the actions of a few, affect millions.

People are idiots, they (in general) can't disassociate and realise that this is the actions of a few. So now all Aussie sportmen will be labelled bad sports. Thanks Shane, couldn't have come at a better time. The Indians will be pleased the spotlight is off them now.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Once again, the actions of a few, affect millions.

People are idiots, they (in general) can't disassociate and realise that this is the actions of a few. So now all Aussie sportmen will be labelled bad sports. Thanks Shane, couldn't have come at a better time. The Indians will be pleased the spotlight is off them now.

And people wrongly stereotype. It is a shame as I see Perkins being a big medal chance in London for Aus and he just shouldn't do that. He would of probably won the gold so it is a shame. He is competing right now in the sprint semi's.

 

[Tuarts]

Also, this is a discussion about a track event...if at all, surely it is in the wrong forum?

 

[DAOTEC]

Meh, we have a long (and proud?) history of angry sprinters (is there any other kind?). At least he didn't punch anyone in his hissy fit. Think Stephen Pate, Darryn Hill, Jobie Djaka and now Shane Perkins! He is simply respecting the athletes that came before him.

Will get back to you later auscyclefan94 first to the PACONI misfit:

The 27-year-old Aussie world and Commonwealth Games champion cyclist, was found dead at his Adelaide home late on Tuesday with police saying the death was not believed to be suspicious.

Djaka was among five Australian top cyclists expelled for bringing the team into disrepute, the Australian Olympic Committee said. World champion Mark French was also banned for live to compete at the Olympics by the Australian Institute of Sport in Adelaide.

 

[DAOTEC]

08:05, Thursday October 7, 2010

What to think about Poor Sportsmanship in general?

Anybody have more examples in cyling of it?

Who's to blame?

What to do about it?

Also, this is a discussion about a track event...if at all, surely it is in the wrong forum?

No is not, or can't you read, and as you might know most of them track trolls end up on the road, expressing the same behaviour, and thereby the same bad sportsmanship.

 

[bobbins]

These threads are getting pretty tedious!

As soon as the contador v/ shleck chain incident is brought up can this be locked!!

Fair play to the riders showing their displeasure at shonky referee decisions. These judges make decisions that aren't reversible on appeal and are blatently wrong in many instances. The riders have no right of appeal so show their displeasure - big deal. It isn't bad sportsmanship, it's elite riders showing passion.

 

[ultimobici]

No is not, or can't you read, and as you might know most of them track trolls end up on the road, expressing the same behaviour, and thereby the same bad sportsmanship.

To compare the actions of Shane Perkins with Renshaw & McEwen is idiotic.

Perkins stuck two fingers up to the commissaires, the two examples you cite are in a totally different category.

BTW I am not Australian!

 

[Ferminal]

Renshaw was never a sprinter...

What did he do on the track to bring the sport into disrepute, and how is a sporting indiscretion poor sportsmanship? By this token getting a yellow card for a moderately bad tackle is poor sportsmanship.

I guess the example DAOTEC really meant to use was Theo Bos, but I guess he's in a mood to troll the Australian track team and its alumni.

 

[timmers]

Well they don't. Most track sprinters do not transition to road. Also as you will be aware the Commissaries rule is final in track as on the road. I don't think Renshaw should have been DQ'd in TDF and I am a Commissaire and a rider but that doesn't matter as it is not a vote. In Delhi I was very supprised that Perkins was DQ'd and I am a New Zealander.