Pro cycling vs. Pro tennis

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Federer: Tennis regime too tough for younger players

Despite the fact that he is 29 years old and definitely one of the oldest Top Ten players on the ATP Tour, Roger “the Maestro” Federer insists that the demands of tennis are no longer easy for new, younger players.

The 16-time Grand Slam champion remains adamant that the rigors of the muscular, athletic game have made the upper levels of tennis an unachievable area for new players.

Federer, who is known to keep an eye on tennis trends, observed that there are no teenagers in the ATP’s Top 100 players list. He added that there are few players less than 22 years who are able to maintain a double digit ranking. Like his accurate serves and flawless game, this observation was also spot-on. One has to scroll all the way down to World Number 114 to find the first teenager, Bulgarian Grigor Dimitrov.

In the days when Federer began playing tennis, he reached the top 100 at the age of 18. Current top player Rafael Nadal achieved the same feat at the age of 17. Current British Number 1 made a run into the World’s Top 20 players before his 20th birthday. Therefore it’s not difficult to understand why Federer feels there are not many younger tennis players with potential.

When asked about who he thinks the next generation of Grand Slam champions will be, he replied, “Promising newcomers? Not a whole lot really. It’s quite surprising for me because when I was coming up there was Hewitt and Safin and Roddick and Ferrero and Haas. They were all in the top 100 as teenagers.” He also added that Boris Becker, one of the legends of tennis, had already won Wimbledon at the age of 17, as Michael Chang had won the French Open.

However rather than blaming it on a lack of talent, Roger Federer has an interesting take on the reasons for decreasing numbers of teenage players. He believes that Rafael Nadal (winner of 11 titles as a teenager), with his rugged athleticism and stamina, is a bit of an exception. Most young players do not develop the stamina required to excel at tennis until they are past their teens. Federer commented, “It’s become more physical and more mental and maybe they need longer to break through now. It can be a good or bad thing depending on where you look at it from.”

Swede Robin Soderling agreed with Federer’s analysis. It took him several years to convert his teenage potential into titles, and he is now World Number 4 at the age of 26. He says, “The sport has become a bit tougher, it’s much more physical than say 10 years ago. It takes a couple years to build up your body to be able to compete with the style of tennis now.”

American Number 1 Andy Roddick also agrees with the two players, saying, “I think I was coming up when the conditions were a little faster and you could rely less on your body.” He added that it was tough for any 18 or 19 year old player to participate in top level tournaments for forty weeks a year and play the kind of tennis required to beat an upper level player.

http://blogs.bettor.com/Tennis-regime-too-tough-for-younger-players-Federer-a46467
 
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Actual comparative statistics for 2008

The actual statistics for testing, comparing pro cycling to pro tennis for 2008 :

Compare 2008 UCI(Pro-Cycling’s ITF)Stats with the 2008 ITF Stats:
In-competition anti-doping tests
UCI conducted 5,509 Urine tests and 587 Blood Tests.
ITF conducted 1,770 Urine Tests and 157 Blood Tests(only done at Slams).

Out-of- competition anti-doping tests
UCI conducted 2,013 Urine Tests and 4,649 Blood Tests.
ITF/WADA conducted 91 Urine Tests and 0 Blood Tests

Total Testing
UCI conducted 12,758 tests to the ITF’s 2,018.

Pre-competition medical blood screens
UCI conducted 466 tests to the ITF’s 0.

Grand Total of UCI 13,224 to the ITF’s 2,018



From :
http://tennisplanet.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/doping-in-tennis-thanks/


Note : Although tennis has introduced the "WADA code" since (in 2009), the frequency of tests in tennis is roughly the same in 2009 as 2008.




Sorry guys, it isn't even close. Cycling tests WAY more often, for more types of substances.

And as Tyler's Twin notes, Roger Federer says that tennis is becoming a MUCH more physical game (therefore MUCH more temptation to use PEDs)
 
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Andy Murray

Scotsman Andy Murray is one of the most obvious examples of doping in pro sport.

He changed his physique from callow slender youth to "NFL Safety" in one post season.

He then claimed it was all down to training harder, bikram yoga, and eating sushi. Same as Lance Idiots believe the "climb reconnaiscance", "high cadence" BS apparently tennis fans lap this up.

He also then started joining buddy nadal in whining about out of competition dope tests.

He also has regular temper tantrums, and has the scariest "pushy mother" you could ever imagine.

He's also clearly a total co*k.
 
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Andynonomous said:
Everyone has an opinion, but mine (as well as the vast majority of tennis fans) is that tennis has become a MUCH more physical game in the last 40 years. Much of what you say is true of tennis (being a primarily skill based rather than physically based game) back in the 1960's.

I agree that it has become a lot more physical, but I still don't think the top players are extraordinary in their physiques. Nadal and Murray probably don't have significantly more strength or stamina than me (they do have a heck of a lot more speed, agility, and tennis ability, of course).

Compare with sports like cycling (6W/kg climbing for long periods), rugby/american football (men who spend hours every day running around and yet manage to maintain 120+kg of lean body weight) etc. and tennis does not look especially physical.
 
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Yep. He is very suspicious.

Mongol_Waaijer said:
Scotsman Andy Murray is one of the most obvious examples of doping in pro sport.

He changed his physique from callow slender youth to "NFL Safety" in one post season.

He then claimed it was all down to training harder, bikram yoga, and eating sushi. Same as Lance Idiots believe the "climb reconnaiscance", "high cadence" BS apparently tennis fans lap this up.

He also then started joining buddy nadal in whining about out of competition dope tests.

He also has regular temper tantrums, and has the scariest "pushy mother" you could ever imagine.

He's also clearly a total co*k.


Andy became associated with Addidas in 2008. The infamous Gil Reyes works for Addidas as a "fitness consultant". Reyes was the guy who got Andre Agassi "buffed up". He also got Fernando Verdasco "buffed up". Although Reyes association with Murray is indirect, he has been seen at Murray's practices and matches.

Early in 2009, Andy's body shape had changed from "wirey" to "buffed". At the same time he showed a marked improvement in his endurance. Oddly enough his ranking hasn't changed that much from before his indirect association with Reyes, to after (he may have lost some of his "touch" - read skill).
 
Mambo95 said:
It's even harder to play football if you never get the ball - which is how Spain play. If you want players who can run all day the look at the English Championship. Most of the players there would out run the Spanish team.

No they cant. The little spanish players would woop every single English player bar maybe lennon in a sprint. And they do it 90 minutes twice a week all year round.

Their team is so much more than just being good at passing. You act as if they just stand in the same place and wait for the magic to bring the ball to them.
Thats mainly the 3 in midfield and even they are running and fighting for the ball throughout the match. Most of their players are about pace. Speedy wingers, strikers and in their case even defenders. Running up and down up and down all match.

They have strenght (iniesta at 170 cm barging into Maicon) and stamina aplenty with the same guys playing every match all season.

They also come back from injuries pretty quick. Both iniesta and Xavi had serious injuries in the months leading up. The latter was predicted to miss the world cup but surprise surprise ended playing every match.

I guess all of that comes naturally with being able to pass the ball though :rolleyes: