Proof Liquigas are the best Grand Tour team

[LeakyLens]

As if the fact that they won 2 out of 3 last year isn't enough, just read the latest blog on http://www.irishpeloton.com/

Quite unbelievable, (perhaps literally), perhaps I should be over at the clinic?!

 

[Michielveedeebee]

and they top 10'd in Le Tour with Kreuziger and Nibali was 3rd in the Giro too.

 

[theyoungest]

Good on them... but on the other hand, in 2009 they did exactly the same, and I don't think you'd have called them the best GT team then.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Good on them... but on the other hand, in 2009 they did exactly the same, and I don't think you'd have called them the best GT team then.

Did they win the Giro? no
Did they top 10 the tour? yes
Did they win the Vuelta? no


exactly the same? not quite

 

[The Hitch]

Team High Road > Liquigas Doimo

 

[theyoungest]

Did they win the Giro? no
Did they top 10 the tour? yes
Did they win the Vuelta? no


exactly the same? not quite

Have you read the article, which the OP links to? This is not about them winning GTs.

 

[LeakyLens]

Have you read the article, which the OP links to? This is not about them winning GTs.

Indeed, consistency is what I mean. Although they've had plenty of top 10s in GTs in the past 2 years too.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Have you read the article, which the OP links to? This is not about them winning GTs.

Well as the thread title was about the best GT team I think it is important to look to results too. If it's just about finishing with the whole team than indeed they did exactly the same.

 

[roundabout]

Team High Road > Liquigas Doimo

They are both very good at spotting talent.

 

[Fowsto Cope-E]

Have you read the article, which the OP links to? This is not about them winning GTs.

actually, the first half of the article was about them winning GT's . . .

 

[Race Radio]

Liquigas is a good example of what you get when the sponsor owns the team. Instead of the owner pocketing most of the cash and hiring a bunch of Neo-Pro's and guys about the retire (Brunyeel, Gianetti) you have a company that is looking for maxium return on investment.....via wins.

 

[ethnik]

Team High Road > Liquigas Doimo

If you prefer quantity over quality, absolutely.

 

[Parrulo]

If you prefer quantity over quality, absolutely.

it was sarcasm

next time wave the sarcasm sign hitch

 

[royalpig180]

Team High Road > Liquigas Doimo

I'm not sure that's really a fair comparison to make. Both teams are VERY good at what they do.

Liquigas targets the GTs, and (last year) they were very succesful in those, with 4 top 10s, 3 podiums, and 2 victories.

HTC targets anything that they can turn into a boring sprinter's race, and let's face it, they're the best in the business when they're on. There win totals from the last several years show this, and they the absolute best at spotting sprint talent.

Both teams do go beyond these simplifications, with riders like Peter Sagan and Daneil Oss on Leekygas and Velits and (formerly) Rogers on HTC. But I still don't think it's fair to say that one team is better than the other. Sure HTC is better in just about any sprint, but I'd put my money on the Italians in any GT, anyday.

 

[theyoungest]

actually, the first half of the article was about them winning GT's . . .

Yes, but historically the part about all riders finishing all 3 GTs is unique, not them winning 2 GTs.

 

[LeakyLens]

Liquigas targets the GTs, and (last year) they were very succesful in those, with 4 top 10s, 3 podiums, and 2 victories.

5 Top 10s. Don't forget Kiserlovski got 10th in the Giro.

 

[royalpig180]

5 Top 10s. Don't forget Kiserlovski got 10th in the Giro.

Thanks! Just proves the point...