Lidl-Trek (no longer Radioshack-Leopard Trek)

[Moose McKnuckles]

I hate Bruyneel so much, but this isn't truth. He had many podium results in classics in old US Postal times with Hincapie, Hoste, Armstrong and some other riders as well..

How many classics victories did USP/Disco have with Bruyneel in the team car?

 

[El Pistolero]

How many classics victories did USP/Disco have with Bruyneel in the team car?

I remember an interview with Boonen were he said he regretted leaving USP at the end of 2002 because they had a strong team in 2003. And that interview was done somewhere in 2007 or so.

 

[Race Radio]

Gotta wonder how long this combo will last. Johan has shown in the past he does not play well with others.

 

[Anonymous]

How many classics victories did USP/Disco have with Bruyneel in the team car?

None.

It was Demol in the car for the Classics and semi-classics. G-W was the only big one day race they won.

 

[MacRoadie]

But no press release on their website?

I supposed they'd first have to actually acknowledge on their website that they even sponsor a cycling team. Then, they can move on to announcing sponsorship extensions.

 

[thehog]

None.

It was Demol in the car for the Classics and semi-classics. G-W was the only big one day race they won.

Bruyneel was in the car for one of Hincapie's comedy classics. There was a doco released with Hog talking Big George his way through tossing another victory away.

 

[MacRoadie]

None.

It was Demol in the car for the Classics and semi-classics. G-W was the only big one day race they won.

Bruyneel cares so little about the spring classics that, you'd almost be forgiven for forgetting he is Belgian...

 

[mewmewmew13]

I do appreciate humour...
We'll see if Horner is chuckling soon.

 

[BillytheKid]

It will indeed be interesting to see where Horner lands. The way he was speaking in the article it sounded like he did not have much going in the way of options..

I would think the old politics and bridge-burning rules are coming into play about now.

I think Horner is playing clueless in this interview. By saying that "it's all news to him" ends any line of questioning about the future team. Horner can talk it up and probably shut himself down before he said something that he would regret later. Certainly there are aspects of this deal that are still in play. So why not play it safe? When he says he plans to keep on racing gives me the impression, he's got a deal for the next few years with Shack/Leopard or not.

 

[Christian]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will have to lose one of its name sponsors: according to UCI rules, a team name can only be composed of 2 sponsors.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-radioshack-nissan-trek-devra-changer-de-nom-19381.html

It would be interesting to know exactly how much money (or what percentage of the total budget) a company has to invest in order to be a co-name sponsor. I would guess it is a considerable amount, so if RaNT has 3 of them plus Becca that would mean they are loaded

 

[Race Radio]

I think Horner is playing clueless in this interview. By saying that "it's all news to him" ends any line of questioning about the future team. Horner can talk it up and probably shut himself down before he said something that he would regret later. Certainly there are aspects of this deal that are still in play. So why not play it safe? When he says he plans to keep on racing gives me the impression, he's got a deal for the next few years with Shack/Leopard or not.

Possibly.....but more likely he is thinking of Johan's long history of screwing over riders and he is starting to regret getting caught up in this chaos.

 

[BillytheKid]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will have to lose one of its name sponsors: according to UCI rules, a team name can only be composed of 2 sponsors.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-radioshack-nissan-trek-devra-changer-de-nom-19381.html

It would be interesting to know exactly how much money (or what percentage of the total budget) a company has to invest in order to be a co-name sponsor. I would guess it is a considerable amount, so if RaNT has 3 of them plus Becca that would mean they are loaded

I doubt that the players involved here are clueless to the UCI rule. The hub-bub around the team name gives added publicity while they can get away with it. My guess is that TREK will still provide the bikes but will be lose top billing on the team name. Radio Shack/Nissan? Kind of awkward. I say TREK will go because bike companies in this era seldom headline for long. Cervelo could be considered the exception, but now Garmin/Cervelo.

 

[BillytheKid]

Possibly.....but more likely he is thinking of Johan's long history of screwing over riders and he is starting to regret getting caught up in this chaos.

That would be true if Radio Shack drops out. Otherwise RS sponsorship will demand American riders.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will have to lose one of its name sponsors: according to UCI rules, a team name can only be composed of 2 sponsors.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-radioshack-nissan-trek-devra-changer-de-nom-19381.html

It would be interesting to know exactly how much money (or what percentage of the total budget) a company has to invest in order to be a co-name sponsor. I would guess it is a considerable amount, so if RaNT has 3 of them plus Becca that would mean they are loaded

That makes me think of
Androni Giocattoli-Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni

But ok, looks like just 2 sponsors.
No Extrawürste for team Radioshack-Nissan, Radioshack-Trek, Nissan-Trek or whatever the team will be called.

 

[thehog]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will have to lose one of its name sponsors: according to UCI rules, a team name can only be composed of 2 sponsors.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-radioshack-nissan-trek-devra-changer-de-nom-19381.html

It would be interesting to know exactly how much money (or what percentage of the total budget) a company has to invest in order to be a co-name sponsor. I would guess it is a considerable amount, so if RaNT has 3 of them plus Becca that would mean they are loaded

Maybe we could ask Mercedes what the budgetary threshold is? Maybe Nissan will drop from the name and just provide vechiles?

This detail makes mute all the arugments of this thread that Nissan were stumping up more cash than Mercedes and that name jersey sponsors provide more cash.

 

[just some guy]

Radioshack-Nissan-Trek will have to lose one of its name sponsors: according to UCI rules, a team name can only be composed of 2 sponsors.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-2012-radioshack-nissan-trek-devra-changer-de-nom-19381.html

It would be interesting to know exactly how much money (or what percentage of the total budget) a company has to invest in order to be a co-name sponsor. I would guess it is a considerable amount, so if RaNT has 3 of them plus Becca that would mean they are loaded

way to promote sponsors UCI

 

[Race Radio]

That would be true if Radio Shack drops out. Otherwise RS sponsorship will demand American riders.

Yeah, thats why they tried so hard to keep Levi

Oh, wait....maybe not

 

[thehog]

way to promote sponsors UCI

It's the right way to do it. Much better for stability. It's to stop teams from having say 5 jersey sponsors making the finances for the 4 year program. If one falls then they all fall. It's better to have 2 strong financial sponsors with long term commitment. Not everything the UCI does it bad.

 

[just some guy]

It's the right way to do it. Much better for stability. It's to stop teams from having say 5 jersey sponsors making the finances for the 4 year program. If one falls then they all fall. It's better to have 2 strong financial sponsors with long term commitment. Not everything the UCI does it bad.

and having 2 sponsors if one fall they all fall not a great argument.

A team should be able to call itself what it wants in this day and age promote sponsors to the sport.

If one wants to man up and be title sponsor they get the naming writes. simple

 

[Cobblestoned]

It's the right way to do it. Much better for stability. It's to stop teams from having say 5 jersey sponsors making the finances for the 4 year program. If one falls then they all fall. It's better to have 2 strong financial sponsors with long term commitment. Not everything the UCI does it bad.

You always take tha UCI from behind as soon as they bend over in the way you like it.

 

[thehog]

You always take tha UCI from behind as soon as they bend over in the way you like it.

Mods please do the needful. This is offensive.

 

[thehog]

and having 2 sponsors if one fall they all fall not a great argument.

A team should be able to call itself what it wants in this day and age promote sponsors to the sport.

If one wants to man up and be title sponsor they get the naming writes. simple

Well no. If one/two sponsors are providing funding for four years then it's a major commitment. They're hardly going to pull out after one year. If you have 5 sponsors putting in a little bit each then there's not a great incentive for each sponsor to stay on through the duration. ie one sponsor could induce risk for the remaining sponsors or if one falls the team might not be able to meet its commitments in other areas like salaries.

The risk is lessened with two than spreading risk by 5 - surely you studied risk analysis at University?

 

[just some guy]

Well no. If one/two sponsors are providing funding for four years then it's a major commitment. They're hardly going to pull out after one year. If you have 5 sponsors putting in a little bit each then there's not a great incentive for each sponsor to stay on through the duration. ie one sponsor could induce risk for the remaining sponsors or if one falls the team might not be able to meet its commitments in other areas like salaries.

The risk is lessened with two than spreading risk by 5 - surely you studied risk analysis at University?

Nope - medical field me

 

[MacRoadie]

Yeah, thats why they tried so hard to keep Levi

Oh, wait....maybe not

Well, he didn't really do too much last year, and it IS a results-based sport.

Oh, wait....never mind

 

[Polish]

Bruyneel traded Levi for Andy, Frank, Fabian, Jens, and a few others.
Seems like a fair trade.
Levi had a great year in 2011.


But if Levi is healthy at the Tours in California, Utah, Colorado, and France next year - the decision to trade him away may come back to haunt Johan.

Calculated risks.
Diversification analysis.
Tough decisions.

Thats why Team Bosses get paid the Big Bucks.
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