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kingjr said:Better than 2014
No matter, the battle for GC was the most boring I have ever seen in any GT, and I can take more than most in terms of boredom. At least Armstrong lost a TT to Botero in 2002.Arnout said:kingjr said:Better than 2014
2014 had good battles for stage wins. This one mostly didn't. Voted 1-2. I don't remember a worse TdF. French TV showed a highlight reel after today's stage and the biggest highlight of the GC battle was Froome missing a corner. No attacks, no surprise, no creativity, nothing. Bunch sprints were quite boring too. None of the flat stages was interesting in any other way (though I missed the EBH win), even the crosswind stage was a lot less exciting than usual. Only one or two medium mountain stages, but with no action to speak of (though Calmejanes and Mollema's victory were nice). The only real highlight was Barguil winning on the Izoard with an actual attack.
kingjr said:No matter, the battle for GC was the most boring I have ever seen in any GT, and I can take more than most in terms of boredom. At least Armstrong lost a TT to Botero in 2002.Arnout said:kingjr said:Better than 2014
2014 had good battles for stage wins. This one mostly didn't. Voted 1-2. I don't remember a worse TdF. French TV showed a highlight reel after today's stage and the biggest highlight of the GC battle was Froome missing a corner. No attacks, no surprise, no creativity, nothing. Bunch sprints were quite boring too. None of the flat stages was interesting in any other way (though I missed the EBH win), even the crosswind stage was a lot less exciting than usual. Only one or two medium mountain stages, but with no action to speak of (though Calmejanes and Mollema's victory were nice). The only real highlight was Barguil winning on the Izoard with an actual attack.
DFA123 said:Went for a 2, which I thought was a touch generous.
Just an awful race all round. Way too many crashes and DQs of top riders, a rubbish route with too many predictable sprints and pointless descent/flat finishes. Other attacking riders like Quintana and Contador not showing up with any kind of form. Boring GC battle (being close time wise =/= interesting). Too easy mountain stages, and the ones that had potential were either marred by crashes or lacked attacks. Lack of an interesting break most days.
Plus points were Barguil and Matthews livening things up, and the UCI having the balls to stand up to Sagan and his influential backers. Oh, and Brailsford's meltdown at the hands of Cycling News.
I should add that my opinion is influenced by the fact that I find Nibali an absurdly dull character. I look at him and feel nothing.Arnout said:kingjr said:No matter, the battle for GC was the most boring I have ever seen in any GT, and I can take more than most in terms of boredom. At least Armstrong lost a TT to Botero in 2002.Arnout said:kingjr said:Better than 2014
2014 had good battles for stage wins. This one mostly didn't. Voted 1-2. I don't remember a worse TdF. French TV showed a highlight reel after today's stage and the biggest highlight of the GC battle was Froome missing a corner. No attacks, no surprise, no creativity, nothing. Bunch sprints were quite boring too. None of the flat stages was interesting in any other way (though I missed the EBH win), even the crosswind stage was a lot less exciting than usual. Only one or two medium mountain stages, but with no action to speak of (though Calmejanes and Mollema's victory were nice). The only real highlight was Barguil winning on the Izoard with an actual attack.
One second of the cobbles stage in that Tour was more exciting and spectacular than three weeks of GC "battle" in this Tour.
I don't mind riders winning with a big margin, that much - I prefer an exciting battle for 1st but if someone is the strongest by a margin so be it (clinic excluded). The frustration of a close GC battle on paper, even though in reality it was always with Froome due to the TT and his team, and noone trying anything before the last 3km makes the GC a lot worse than just neutral, as it was in 2014.
kingjr said:I should add that my opinion is influenced by the fact that I find Nibali an absurdly dull character. I look at him and feel nothing.Arnout said:kingjr said:No matter, the battle for GC was the most boring I have ever seen in any GT, and I can take more than most in terms of boredom. At least Armstrong lost a TT to Botero in 2002.Arnout said:kingjr said:Better than 2014
2014 had good battles for stage wins. This one mostly didn't. Voted 1-2. I don't remember a worse TdF. French TV showed a highlight reel after today's stage and the biggest highlight of the GC battle was Froome missing a corner. No attacks, no surprise, no creativity, nothing. Bunch sprints were quite boring too. None of the flat stages was interesting in any other way (though I missed the EBH win), even the crosswind stage was a lot less exciting than usual. Only one or two medium mountain stages, but with no action to speak of (though Calmejanes and Mollema's victory were nice). The only real highlight was Barguil winning on the Izoard with an actual attack.
One second of the cobbles stage in that Tour was more exciting and spectacular than three weeks of GC "battle" in this Tour.
I don't mind riders winning with a big margin, that much - I prefer an exciting battle for 1st but if someone is the strongest by a margin so be it (clinic excluded). The frustration of a close GC battle on paper, even though in reality it was always with Froome due to the TT and his team, and noone trying anything before the last 3km makes the GC a lot worse than just neutral, as it was in 2014.