Rate the TdF 2017 route

[Red Rick]

Well there you have it.

 

[barmaher]

I need to see the actual mountain stages, but having two really short ITTs bookending the race really drags it down in my view. I don't mind the Foix stage as much as others will.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Can we have a less-biased poll?

 

[Miburo]

Re:

Can we have a less-biased poll?

I agree, the only option should be 0

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

Can we have a less-biased poll?

Do you actually want to rate it higher than 7 tho

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re: Re:

Can we have a less-biased poll?

Do you actually want to rate it higher than 7 tho

I want it neutral.

 

[dacooley]

7/10. way too mountanious routes like 2014-2016 didn't work the way they were supposed to be. time to shift focus.

 

[Breh]

Re: Re:

Can we have a less-biased poll?

Do you actually want to rate it higher than 7 tho

I want it neutral.

Agree.

Then again, wasn't expecting a mod to be unbiased.

Gave it a 6+

 

[hrotha]

A mod only needs to be neutral when moderating.

I haven't even looked at the profiles so I won't rate it yet, but I can already say this route is terrible. Completely unbalanced. Yet another mockery of the sport.

 

[Miburo]

Re: Re:

Can we have a less-biased poll?

Do you actually want to rate it higher than 7 tho

I want it neutral.

Agree.

Then again, wasn't expecting a mod to be unbiased.

Gave it a 6+

Hahaha you don't know the mods here well then. They are humans after all and it's just the internet

 

[veji11]

Agreed, this poll losest its value as comparison with other GT ratings when biased like this.. Not that I want to give it a high mark but still, one should be able to give it a 7 or a 10 and argue for his reasoning.

 

[S2Sturges]

A Froome or Quintana GC route... Assuming Sky will still be here, of course.. I understand what hey are trying to do, but I don't see much excitement in it myself ...
Then again, Le Tour lost it's gloss a few years ago, I'll be watching the Giro and Vuelta instead

 

[hrotha]

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A Froome [...] route...

Surely it's only a Froome route inasmuch as he'd still be the top favourite on almost any kind of route? No GT with so few ITT kilometers can be a Froome route in principle.

 

[DBotero]

O looks like a good rating for this.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Immediate reaction
1/10

Considered reaction
Same crap as usual. Is it Giro time yet?

 

[Linkinitouille]

Seriously 6/10.

Izoard stage is ***, a bit too many sprinter stages, but still great stages AND **** MONT DU CHAT IS BACK AFTER 42 YEARS

 

[Red Rick]

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A Froome [...] route...

Surely it's only a Froome route inasmuch as he'd still be the top favourite on almost any kind of route? No GT with so few ITT kilometers can be a Froome route in principle.

Quintana need hard mountain stages to get rid of Froome. There are 2. Both finish after a descent and some flat. Izoard may get him some time, but the Pyrenees are total waste for him. Izoard is the only MTF he's got a legit shot at dropping Froome, so he's got 3 chances.

If the Mond du Chat stage is wasted, I'm not watching the rest of the Tour. Remind me to make sure I've got something else going on next summer

 

[gregrowlerson]

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A Froome [...] route...

Surely it's only a Froome route inasmuch as he'd still be the top favourite on almost any kind of route? No GT with so few ITT kilometers can be a Froome route in principle.

Exactly. Another route for Quintana.

Given Contador's poor ITT in la Vuelta it's a decent route for him too. Mont Du Chat and Telegraphe crazy attacks please!

 

[hrotha]

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Seriously 7/10.

Izoard stage is ****, a bit too many sprinter stages, but still great stages AND **** MONT DU CHAT IS BACK AFTER 42 YEARS

You can have the most awesome individual stages and ruin them with faulty macrodesign (namely, by making sure nobody needs to move by having very few ITT km, and putting the longer ITT stage after the mountains).

 

[Red Rick]

If Contador climbs well enough for his TT to matter, I'm sure he'll TT just fine

 

[Alexandre B.]

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Seriously 7/10.

Izoard stage is ****, a bit too many sprinter stages, but still great stages AND **** MONT DU CHAT IS BACK AFTER 42 YEARS

I like the idea of one big mountain stage per week. Three MTF is usually the norm on the Tour, but the set-up to La Planche des Belles Filles is a disappointment to me.

There's probably too many sprinter-friendly stages.

 

[dacooley]

seems like it's really boring without long time-trials (hilly or not). nonetheless given state of affairs among top contenders, putting lots of timetrialing in could be a disaster for the race as well.

 

[Breh]

Not that weird tho. Grand Depart in Germany, new German WT team,...

Give Kittel and Greipel some stages to do what they do best. Bring the German public back.

 

[Singer01]

without seeing all the profiles i can only say that it looks like a 5 route, and that is being generous hoping the profiles for the other stages make up for what we can see.

 

[Fight.The.Power]

A very strange course I think. Like a hotch-potch of sub standard days bolted together.

Scored it a four which is my lowest ever.