Rebellin to world tour .

[ISDfan]

How do you think is it possible for Rebellin to return at pro-tour ? Can we see him at world tour level again ?

Rebellin's results (season 2011) :
http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/rider_palm.asp?riderid=4&year=2011&all=1&current=0

 

[Jamsque]

I ****ing well hope not.

 

[jens_attacks]

pretty sure at astana.but geox and farnese want him bad too.

 

[LukeSchmid]

On a purely racing level he is getting results so I don't see why not.

On a buying points level he seems to have some, cqranking list had him a 25 but might not include his last few results, so could help with licence, so maybe a good idea.

His age has to be a bit of a query and at some stage it has to take its toll, maybe he will not be any good next year, but maybe he has a very good doctor and the perfect training program.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

whats not to love when old folk come back after 2 years rest and show no signs of slowing down.

 

[Mellow Velo]

whats not to love when old folk come back after 2 years rest and show no signs of slowing down.

I've watched both his wins this week.
He really needs to learn to look just a little bit tired, when you see the faces of the rest, struggling not to lose 100 metres to him, inside the last km.

A desperate man, with huge debts, will do desperate things.............especially when it wasn't a problem before and the worst thing that can happen is a lifetime ban at 40.

 

[The Hitch]

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

Other riders even get loved. No one says that Garzelli's Giro doesnt count whereas they do say Gilbert is the only person to win Ardenne tripple because Rebbelin doesnt count.

Whats Rebbelin done?

Is it agism?

 

[Fetisoff]

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

Other riders even get loved. No one says that Garzelli's Giro doesnt count whereas they do say Gilbert is the only person to win Ardenne tripple because Rebbelin doesnt count.

Whats Rebbelin done?

Is it agism?

I actually like him more than I did before his suspension. Didn't care much for him before, but there's something about an old man coming back and having passion for cycling the way he does that I just can't help but like.

Blah blah blah desperate broke blah blah blah. I wish I was half of as"broke and desperate" as David is.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

Other riders even get loved. No one says that Garzelli's Giro doesnt count whereas they do say Gilbert is the only person to win Ardenne tripple because Rebbelin doesnt count.

Whats Rebbelin done?

Is it agism?

I don't mind riders coming back, with a doping past. It pis$es me off at the time sure, but i get over it.

But there was something about rebbelin I never liked, even before his doping. Also I am pretty sure there are many who don't like millar etc.

Basso was pretty average when he first returned. I don't like it when riders come back and do well instantly. Especially at that age.

 

[ingsve]

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

Other riders even get loved. No one says that Garzelli's Giro doesnt count whereas they do say Gilbert is the only person to win Ardenne tripple because Rebbelin doesnt count.

Whats Rebbelin done?

Is it agism?

I can asure you that those riders are also hated. It's just a matter of who is doing the hating. The difference is perhaps that while the haters still hate there are also those that are fanboys and Rebellin is perhaps missing on the fanboy side.

A difference is also that the riders listed have been around a while so the hate gets a bit diluted. It would be tedious to hate on them every time they get mentioned but that doesn't mean the hate is not there.

 

[ISDfan]

I really like him ! It's cool when old man at the age of 40 , after 2 years of rest show such passion to cycling , and not only passion but good results . May be he have a good doctor and training program , and that gives him an opportunity to show good results . I think he should go to Lampre instead playboy - Pozzato , i think in classic he can be more usefull than both Cunego and Pozzato .

 

[ISDfan]

Especially at that age.

Is it better when cyclist at his age is a garbage can on a bike , which doesnt show any result , and just finished races at 100 spot ? And why its bad when someone at the age 40 , shows that he still has what it takes in order to show a good result ?

 

[Michele]

I've watched both his wins this week.
He really needs to learn to look just a little bit tired, when you see the faces of the rest, struggling not to lose 100 metres to him, inside the last km.

A desperate man, with huge debts, will do desperate things.............especially when it wasn't a problem before and the worst thing that can happen is a lifetime ban at 40.

Rebellin had troubles with tax evasions of somthing like 6 millions euro (which means his bank account is much more bigger) but never heard of debts?

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

Other riders even get loved. No one says that Garzelli's Giro doesnt count whereas they do say Gilbert is the only person to win Ardenne tripple because Rebbelin doesnt count.

Whats Rebbelin done?

Is it agism?

When Sella came back in the peloton, he was receiving spits on his face from other riders.

 

[jens_attacks]

When Sella came back in the peloton, he was receiving spits on his face from other riders.

indeed,our friend emanuele had a big mouth.still an entertaining rider.

 

[Duartista]

Rebellin had troubles with tax evasions of somthing like 6 millions euro (which means his bank account is much more bigger) but never heard of debts?



When Sella came back in the peloton, he was receiving spits on his face from other riders.

Wasn't that more to do with the fact he talked to the authorities?

 

[jens_attacks]

Wasn't that more to do with the fact he talked to the authorities?

of course it was.ricco and sella sniitched and destroyed the life of many people.as i said in the real life i definitely won't hang with guys like these but in the front of the tv,i like them especially a talent like ricco

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Riccò didn't snitch to the authorities. Riccò named some already well-known people and was thought to be evasive, hence why he had to appeal just to get the four months knocked off his ban. Sella named his sources and detailed many a thing and it got to the point where busts were happening in Italy and Sella was coming forward and saying "nothing to do with me!" because he'd detailed enough that much of the Italian continental péloton were of the "if in doubt, blame Lelle" persuasion. He now rides like an Italian version of David Moncoutié (in terms of his positioning in races, not in terms of anything else, as they're obviously from very different ends of the Clinic scale) - either right at the back of the péloton or in the breakaway. It's harder for the saliva to reach him there.

It'll be interesting to see reactions when Valverde returns. He was an absolute pariah on this forum, and plenty of people who were pro-Vino and pro-Riccò were going apoplectic and treating Valverde as if he celebrated his victories by kicking puppies and holding up depictions of Muhammad as he crossed the line.

Millar? Millar's a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of character. He has managed very well to peddle a line of being the reformed white knight. But there's no convert worse than a zealot, and there's no zealot worse than a convert. His act is pretty transparent, and to tell the truth has done very little to undermine omertà if anything at all, and his smug preaching whenever asked about any case is hypocritical at best, downright insulting at worst.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Rebellin had troubles with tax evasions of somthing like 6 millions euro (which means his bank account is much more bigger) but never heard of debts?



When Sella came back in the peloton, he was receiving spits on his face from other riders.

I thought tax evasion = debt, or am I wrong?
Is the sentence in Italy jail time, but no repayment of taxes owed?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I thought tax evasion = debt, or am I wrong?
Is the sentence in Italy jail time, but no repayment of taxes owed?

Yeah, back tax problems are normally a problem because they stem from money you earned but don't have any more. If you just have the money sitting in your bank account, the problem isn't likely to arise in the first place. And I'm pretty sure that in Italy, if the authorities come after you for not paying your taxes, they do in fact want those taxes rather than just the opportunity to pay out more tax money to keep you in prison.

 

[Michele]

I thought tax evasion = debt, or am I wrong?
Is the sentence in Italy jail time, but no repayment of taxes owed?

They do want the money and if usually it's a big amount, they would give a sort of "discount" but they want the money right on their hands quickly.

Shortly, he was saying he was living in Monaco (for avoid tax) but actually living most of the time in Italy (donno exactly where but must be between Padova and Treviso).
So if he's charged of 7 millions tax evasion, it means he has a lot lot more.

 

[boomcie]

Back from a welcome vacation. Well rested and ready to rock.

Why do people hate on Rebbelin so much.

Doesnt seem to be so much hate against say Basso, Valverde, Millar Dekker, Sella etc etc etc

I don't hate cyclists, not sure why that word [hate] is so popular on internet fora. It's not clear to me why anyone would hate a cyclist they hardly know. I do dislike Basso and Valverde though, that's a personal feeling. Rebellin I've always found to be pretty much ok.

He ís getting old though

 

[greenedge]

Maybe RS might want him. He shall probably however go to Geox thought V_F will want him now that Visconti is leaving.