Renshaw back to being leadout?

[CQmanager]

So Renshaw is back to being a leadout huh? I guess his "I'm THE sprinter" career was short lived. Hopefully Bos can step it up for Rabo.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bos-renshaw-test-train-in-scheldeprijs

 

[Marcus135]

Personally i never thought he had the top end speed needed to be a sprinter. He should look for a big leadout contract with Cav again, or another big name sprinter.

 

[greenedge]

I don't know if the experiment is over- i'm sure he has to ride some races for Bos ( but Bos cannot lead out for him ).

He just needs a train- at Qatar on the last stage he would have gone better if he was not exposed in the wind with 350m to go.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

There was an article about it in our newspaper today

Rabobank did tests with both over the winter. Theo Bos was the faster sprinter every single time.
So then it was decided that Theo Bos is the main sprinter, and Renshaw can go his own chances when Bos is not there or when Bos loses contact in the stage

 

[Lexman]

well we can speak of great career move, instead of leading out sprints for Cavendish with a 90 % or more chance of a win he may lead out for Bos

 

[Lexman]

There was an article about it in our newspaper today

gotta link evt?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

gotta link evt?

not atm..its our regional newspaper, maybe later it will surface somewhere on their site but i doubt it

 

[hrotha]

well we can speak of great career move, instead of leading out sprints for Cavendish with a 90 % or more chance of a win he may lead out for Bos

He also gets to ride for himself more often, and a realistic chance of becoming the team's top sprinter if he got better results than Bos (which isn't the same as getting better results than Cavendish). It might not work out in the end, but he'd have to be a completely unambitious rider not to give it a try.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Since both Bos and Renshaw are doing the Giro, I hope Bos can win a Giro stage or two, with Renshaw as his leadout.

 

[theyoungest]

Wasn't this always the plan? Renshaw gets his own chance if Bos isn't there? Everything else (including the "I am the #1 sprinter") I've read only in Cyclingnews articles about him.

 

[Der Effe]

Wasn't this always the plan? Renshaw gets his own chance if Bos isn't there? Everything else (including the "I am the #1 sprinter") I've read only in Cyclingnews articles about him.

Yeah, even Renshaw himself said this when he signed for Rabobank. His own chance in the races Bos doesn't stand a chance/doesn't compete, lead out man in the races in which they do think Bos has a chance.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yeah, even Renshaw himself said this when he signed for Rabobank. His own chance in the races Bos doesn't stand a chance/doesn't compete, lead out man in the races in which they do think Bos has a chance.

which is pretty much always as bos lacks everything to be a serious roadcyclist

 

[Der Effe]

which is pretty much always as bos lacks everything to be a serious roadcyclist

Bla bla, you're boring.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm simply pointing out why it was a good decision on renshaws part to go to rabo instead of stay.

 

[hrotha]

Bos doesn't have what it takes to be a top sprinter, but he's a good second-tier sprinter. No shame in that, and that doesn't mean he isn't a "serious" road cyclist.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Bos doesn't have what it takes to be a top sprinter, but he's a good second-tier sprinter. No shame in that, and that doesn't mean he isn't a "serious" road cyclist.

imo it's a bad decision he made. he was a world class tracksprinter(without a golden medal still) and he gave that up to become nothing better than a graeme brown(who has at least won gold)

 

[theyoungest]

If you look at it in that simplistic light, yes, he did make a bad decision. However, he needed a challenge, and new motivation. Just like Mark Renshaw did when he switched from a leadout to an (occasional) sprinter's role.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

if winning a golden medal isn't a big enough challenge then I don't know what is. I wonder sometimes if bos didn't regret his move as I'm 100% certain he thought the transition wou;d've been a lot easier. remember also all the media hype and rabo hype. now he's joe average in the peloton and nobody really cares anymore about the hype

 

[theyoungest]

Winning a gold medal is of course a challenge, but you can only get one every four years. I think Bos was pretty crushed mentally after the disillusion in Beijing.

You shouldn't judge him by the standards of a former world champion, track sprinting is a totally different discipline. That's why your comparison with Graeme Brown is moot as well, he's a gold medallist in the team pursuit and madison, not in the sprint.

 

[Frosty]

Where does Michael Matthews come in the pecking order?

 

[Caruut]

Winning a gold medal is of course a challenge, but you can only get one every four years. I think Bos was pretty crushed mentally after the disillusion in Beijing.

You shouldn't judge him by the standards of a former world champion, track sprinting is a totally different discipline. That's why your comparison with Graeme Brown is moot as well, he's a gold medallist in the team pursuit and madison, not in the sprint.

How good you could be at something is extremely relevant to whether what you're doing is a good idea. No-one is going to call Gilbert a muppet for riding on the road, rather than the track, because he's much better on tarmac. The same cannot be said for Bos. I don't see why someone would give up the chance to be one of the best in a respected sport to be mediocre in another.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Where does Michael Matthews come in the pecking order?

Third on a flat finish, first if it's tougher.

On Bos:

If they get the leadout working properly it will be interesting to see how he does. You can't be a top track sprinter without having a ferocious kick, so we can take it for granted that his problem isn't top speed or acceleration. It's two things: terrible positioning and having to produce that kick after a day in the saddle. The first thing can be fixed by having him stick to Renshaw's wheel like somebody has stapled his nose to Mark's buttocks. The second thing, well that may or may not be fixable.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

How good you could be at something is extremely relevant to whether what you're doing is a good idea. No-one is going to call Gilbert a muppet for riding on the road, rather than the track, because he's much better on tarmac. The same cannot be said for Bos. I don't see why someone would give up the chance to be one of the best in a respected sport to be mediocre in another.

Really? You can't see why someone would give up being a top rugby sevens player to play rugby union? You can't see why someone would give up being a top Canadian Football Player to try American Football? You can't see why someone would give up being an Amateur code boxer to try the Pro code, even though it means giving up your chance at the Olympics?

The answer is straightforward: Track cycling is a backwater within the sport, ranking somewhere just behind cross and mountain biking. Road cycling is where the prestige and money can be found. It's like asking why Daniel Teklehaimanot wants to ride in Europe instead of beating up everyone in the Tour of Rwanda.

 

[theyoungest]

How good you could be at something is extremely relevant to whether what you're doing is a good idea. No-one is going to call Gilbert a muppet for riding on the road, rather than the track, because he's much better on tarmac. The same cannot be said for Bos. I don't see why someone would give up the chance to be one of the best in a respected sport to be mediocre in another.

I guess in Britain it's different with the hype around your Olympic track cyclists, but in Holland track cycling is not a big sport. At all. Even while he was still a track cyclist people would ask Bos why he wouldn't try the road.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I guess in Britain it's different with the hype around your Olympic track cyclists, but in Holland track cycling is not a big sport. At all. Even while he was still a track cyclist people would ask Bos why he wouldn't try the road.

Track cycling is no more a big sport in Britain than rowing or curling or sailing are. It exists as a quadrennial celebration of some dudes you've never heard of winning Olympic medals and then goes back in the memory hole.

It is however a bit closer to the level of road cycling in Britain though, because road cycling isn't exactly a massive sport there either. So you get terrible crimes against humanity, like Geraint Thomas putting some Olympic track race ahead of Paris Roubaix.