rider reactions?

[funnytanlines]

unless i've missed it, i haven't read or seen any coverage of reactions about the 60 minutes report from current riders and teams. unfortunately 60 mins came out after the ToC, but it was a rest day at the Giro so i'm sure the riders were accessible and had to deal with the media. there must have been a lot of "no comments" for sure as there are probably implications for a lot of current riders and directors, but it would be nice to hear about it.

 

[luckyboy]

I expect they're more bothered that one of their own was killed this morning.

 

[pedaling squares]

True, today was a day to dwell on more tragic and significant matters. But yesterday's silence reveals the two-headed snake that is many a pro rider. Plenty of adolescent twitter-rage upon Ricco when it was alleged that he botched a transfusion. Not a word against Armstrong when a fellow rider made direct allegations of an organized doping program. Selective moral outrage is rather pathetic.

 

[Boeing]

does the lack of reaction mean that doping is still prevalent?

 

[D-Queued]

does the lack of reaction mean that doping is still prevalent?

No.

It simply means that a lot of guys are worried about being fingered by Tyler as:

- The other guy in the hotel room giving a blood extraction
- The other guy getting spoon fed (eye droppered) by Lance

Dave.

 

[Deagol]

Omerta is alive and well ........

 

[pmcg76]

Agreed, this bothers me as well, we heard plenty of the English speakers mouthing of about Ricco but not a peep about Armstrong.

Wiggins is probably the worst example, remember his reaction when Moreni was busted and then cosying up with Armstrong on his return.

Cavendish as well, lots of people suggest he is verbally anti-doping and slated Ricco big time but not a peep about the bigger breaking story.

I know its not proof of doping but it is shameless the way supposedly clean riders buddy up with Lance. Must be all that star aura or something.

 

[funnytanlines]

nothing much on twitter either.

 

[Boeing]

No.

It simply means that a lot of guys are worried about being fingered by Tyler as:

- The other guy in the hotel room giving a blood extraction
- The other guy getting spoon fed (eye droppered) by Lance

Dave.

or their system being exposed

 

[python]

reaction to what ? that armstrong was a doper ? everyone in the peloton knew that !

but i bet there is a LOT of reaction that's not PUBLIC...

 

[Indurain]

Wouldn't surprise me if Armstrong secretly unscrewed the garage door that killed Xavier to divert attention from himself. Not much different than Obama suddenly killing Osama Bin Laden to divert attention from his Birth Certificate issues and falling popularity.

 

[frenchfry]

The UCI is still firmly attached to the Armstrong mafia. Those who speak out do so at their own risk. McQuaid/Verdruggen have to go down for real change to happen.

 

[JPM London]

does the lack of reaction mean that doping is still prevalent?

I think it's more to do with Lance = past, so they generally past caring. And it's not like it's a shock. I mean, it's one more guy saying exactly the same things as they guy from last year.

FWIW - Ricco was active at the time, s he was not in the past and he's much younger, so had the potential to really mess it up for everybody - not like the old guy who's got justice hanging over his head just waiting to happen.

Also - come to think of it - if you're a rider and wanted to point out your opinion of LA you'd have had ample opportunity by now - it's not like the Tyler stuff could in any way be the deal breaker (well, unless you're Taylor Phinney that is - I think he might still be living in the hopeful, blue eyed world...)

 

[hektoren]

Peter Meinert's (USPostal 1999) reaction: "I've got no knowledge of Armstrong doing anything wrong. Each rider ran his own show, no one had any idea what other riders were doing, either teammates or competitors. Hamilton isn't credible."

Omertà, still alive and kicking.

 

[mikkemus23]

I liked this one from FL


GreyManrod Chade O. Grey
Hey @Bradwiggins where can I read your comments about GH being a bitter man who has lost everything and it's so sad and bla bla bla **** you
22 May
in reply to ↑
Bradley Wiggins
@bradwiggins Bradley Wiggins
@GreyManrod Not too sure, Google it, that might find it, cheers
22 May via web

 

[Benotti69]

i cant be bothered with Twitter or facebook....but if i was following i would be asking some carefully worded questions of riders to get response or reaction..

I imagine you would get silence, blocked or support for Armstrong. But still be interesting to see the reaction of todays peloton. Remember Armstrong still big time connected to peloton via radiosmack and bruyneel.

 

[yourwelcome]

Professionally speaking, even for clean riders it's probably partly due to their being well aware that providing media fuel to throw on the US Postal bonfire will be detrimental to their sponsors investment.

Doesn't necessarily need a more nefarious reason than that to be reticent to fire up the torches.

 

[RdBiker]

I'd guess that since it's not necessary to say anything they don't out of respect/fear.

 

[nevada]

Agreed, this bothers me as well, we heard plenty of the English speakers mouthing of about Ricco but not a peep about Armstrong.

Wiggins is probably the worst example, remember his reaction when Moreni was busted and then cosying up with Armstrong on his return.

Cavendish as well, lots of people suggest he is verbally anti-doping and slated Ricco big time but not a peep about the bigger breaking story.

I know its not proof of doping but it is shameless the way supposedly clean riders buddy up with Lance. Must be all that star aura or something.

Maybe Wiggo got a DHL package too !

 

[hektoren]

Steffen Kjaergaard (Norwegian national cycling coach, USPS, TdF 2000-2001): "I don't like [the fact] that he's saying this.

- "Everybody got lunch-bags, as I suppose is the norm in any well-functioning team. They usually consisted of a sandwich, fruit and a beverage".
"I have no knowledge of there being separate colored lunch-bags, neither did I ever see any kind of drugs in relation to these bags.
I remember the mandatory blood-tests, and I believe it was because the hematocrit said something about the health of the riders. It was a sort of an internal control-mechanism.
I have no recollection of the team going to a hotel, but I know I haven't transfused as described by Hamilton. We may have entered a hotel but not stayed the night.
Normally we travelled together on the teambus, but on mountain-stages it was different due to the time-differences. The fastest riders went back to the hotel on the bus, without waiting for the last few, while I went back by car.

The sheer number of riders on USPS caught doping at one time or another in their careers makes a less than flattering statistic. If what the riders have told lately is true, it's really bad, but I don't want to believe Lance doped."

 

[andy1234]

The truth is, there is as much disdain for Landis and Hamilton in the peleton as there is for Armstrong.
Nobody wants to come out in support of FL and TH, regardless of the accuracy of their messages.

TH and FL contributed nothing positive (no pun intended0 to the profile of cycling and yet they are still headline news.

Many would rather they just disappeared.
Even those riders who are anti Armstrong.

 

[neineinei]

Peter Meinert's (USPostal 1999) reaction: "I've got no knowledge of Armstrong doing anything wrong. Each rider ran his own show, no one had any idea what other riders were doing, either teammates or competitors. Hamilton isn't credible."

Omertà, still alive and kicking.

That is a lame defense. I didn't see anything, so he can't have seen anything either.

According to Frankie Andreu only a tight group around Armstrong knew and other riders on the team might have seen nothing.

http://www.vg.no/sport/sykkel/artikkel.php?artid=10035840

 

[barn yard]

'rider reactions' in italy likely resulted in a certain american team flushing the toilets a bit more than usual!

 

[veganrob]

The truth is, there is as much disdain for Landis and Hamilton in the peleton as there is for Armstrong.
Nobody wants to come out in support of FL and TH, regardless of the accuracy of their messages.

TH and FL contributed nothing positive (no pun intended0 to the profile of cycling and yet they are still headline news.

Many would rather they just disappeared.
Even those riders who are anti Armstrong.

I think you are correct here. The riders would rather that whole era pass quietly so as not too shed more light on to what is happening now. Just go about their own business. It is still very dirty just maybe not so in your face stupid like before. I do not think many riders liked Armstrong at all but had to either support him or keep to themselves. Omerta