Ridley Noah "Fast Brake"

[Boeing]

anyone with experience with this integrated braking system?

thoughts?


I am trying to sort out the significance here.

 

[ElChingon]

No experience but have been following that feature for some time. I originally thought it was going to be more integrated than what I've seen in the pictures. Yes, its integrated but the cable holder sticks out a bit too much for my liking in a supposed integrated design. It (the cable holder/mount) should of been designed to the frame as well.

I do think its a definite cool factor (I know a lot will cringe and start a flame war about that yet wear a Ralpha jersey) and we've seen the TT bikes with similar brakes for some time but none have really caught on.

I don't think you'll (or whoever buys one) have any more torque due to braking at the mounts than a regular brake, just hope the front fork is built up strong enough to deal with that as it looks like a chunk of fork real estate is taken by the brake.

 

[Boeing]

ElC, that is the first thing that struck me. I am no engineer, but the first question I had was if the fork or seatstays distort with pressure. Especially the fork and braking at speed with force on a wheel in a turn etc?


is this really a technological breakthrough also considering the rumored trend toward disc brakes for road bikes with the 3 major group mfgs?

 

[DirtyWorks]

ElC, that is the first thing that struck me. I am no engineer, but the first question I had was if the fork or seatstays distort with pressure. Especially the fork and braking at speed with force on a wheel in a turn etc?


is this really a technological breakthrough also considering the rumored trend toward disc brakes for road bikes with the 3 major group mfgs?

In terms of crown forces and all that, the equipment has to pass CEN standards, so there's little worry in the first 1000's of KM's.

The fatigue life of carbon is much higher than alloys. For me, there's little worry about the design. As always though, it's carbon and when it fails, it fails suddenly and spectacularly.

Using carbon fiber as a spring in a novel brake is pretty cool. Nice circumvention of UCI's rules too. Functionally, it's a brake, aerodynamically it's a fairinged fork. Is there a brake release in there somewhere?

 

[Boeing]

In terms of crown forces and all that, the equipment has to pass CEN standards, so there's little worry in the first 1000's of KM's.

The fatigue life of carbon is much higher than alloys. For me, there's little worry about the design. As always though, it's carbon and when it fails, it fails suddenly and spectacularly.

Using carbon fiber as a spring in a novel brake is pretty cool. Nice circumvention of UCI's rules too. Functionally, it's a brake, aerodynamically it's a fairinged fork. Is there a brake release in there somewhere?

I dont underestimate standards

something tells me the 404 Firecrest wont fit

 

[laziali]

In terms of crown forces and all that, the equipment has to pass CEN standards, so there's little worry in the first 1000's of KM's.

The fatigue life of carbon is much higher than alloys. For me, there's little worry about the design. As always though, it's carbon and when it fails, it fails suddenly and spectacularly.

Using carbon fiber as a spring in a novel brake is pretty cool. Nice circumvention of UCI's rules too. Functionally, it's a brake, aerodynamically it's a fairinged fork. Is there a brake release in there somewhere?

Carbon doesn't have a fatigue life, at least not this side of Armageddon.

 

[simo1733]

Carbon doesn't have a fatigue life, at least not this side of Armageddon.

The Fatigue life of CFRP is difficult to estimate unlike metals

 

[DirtyWorks]

The Fatigue life of CFRP is difficult to estimate unlike metals

+1 to this.

Which is why, when a carbon bike is involved in a crash, you can't just examine the frame for obvious signs of compromise like an alloy frame. Carbon is not multipurpose like an alloy tube, so any force applied that is not designed into the frame set's capabilities becomes a critical issue. Heaven forbid there's some hidden failure. And make no mistake unlike alloys, that's entirely possible with carbon laminates.

I know my frequent warnings about the real limits of carbon frames fall on largely deaf ears. That's the reality of the bike fashion business. It would be worse to say nothing at all.