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Teams & Riders Sepp Kuss is the next Sepp Kuss thread

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I think Jorgensen can top 5 if everything goes the teams way, which is better than what Kuss can provide respectively.

I see, Jorgenson has a shot at finishing in top 5, Kuss likely way below that indeed. Only 12th last year at the Tour.

Jorgensen also unlike Kuss has shown (winning) form this year and that he can be competitive with Roglic in a week race while Kuss hasn’t shown anything in months. But I guess if Jorgensen is actually not that good, maybe the level wasn’t so high in CdD like you thought.

Ah the ToS thread. Why not, will in your opinion Jorgenson beat Yates and Almeida in regards to GC?
 
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That kind of talk is dangerous, because he has to back it up with at least a GT podium.

If I were Kuss I'd be very humble and low-key about the Vuelta.
It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't politics from him to ensure that he is a leader for this year's Vuelta. I think if last years Vuelta taught Sepp anything, it was he has to stick up for himself as no one else will. (except maybe the fans).

I think he got asked a question, and he responded. How would you have responded?... "yes in fact, I was gifted the win and I realize they need a new leader for this years race?" He clearly wants to be a leader and he wants the salary that goes along with that.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't politics from him to ensure that he is a leader for this year's Vuelta. I think if last years Vuelta taught Sepp anything, it was he has to stick up for himself as no one else will. (except maybe the fans).

I think he got asked a question, and he responded. How would you have responded?... "yes in fact, I was gifted the win and I realize they need a new leader for this years race?" He clearly wants to be a leader and he wants the salary that goes along with that.
Kuss can be the leader in GTs where Vingegaard will not compete, and also help Vingegaard in the Tour.
 
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Kuss can be the leader in GTs where Vingegaard will not compete, and also help Vingegaard in the Tour.
I agree.

I assume if Vingegaard does actually attempt the TDF this year, he won't be doing the Vuelta, so everything should work out well.

BTW, here is a Kuss quote from an article early in the Dauphine. He doesn't sound overly aggressive to me.

"Of course, it would change a bit [his Tour status]. I would hope that Jonas could do the Tour, I think that gives us all a bigger purpose," Kuss told reporters in Gannat ahead of stage 2 in France.

"For me, it's easier there with Jonas than just on my own for sure. But if he isn't there, then I'm ready to adapt but then you have to adjust the expectations a bit."

Kuss also made sure not to pigeonhole himself for a specific goal at the Tour de France should he end up as a leader, be that a top-five or podium finish, aware that Vingegaard's still undecided presence would change everything.

"I have no idea," he replied with a smile when asked how high he could finish if tasked with taking on the likes of Tadej Pogačar (UAE Team Emirates) for the overall alone.

"It depends on so many things. I always want to shoot for the best but in the Tour, you have to be realistic," Kuss said. "It's the hardest race to win and the hardest race to be on the podium."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/yo...to-adapt-if-vingegaard-misses-tour-de-france/
 
A bit of respect for the last 2x time Tour France winner would be something good.

I don't feel this comes down to respect or disrespect. For me personally it would be rather disrespectful if Visma really plans to use Jonas as a dom for Jorgenson and Kuss. That in my opinion wouldn't prove anything meaningful, quite the opposite. In my opinion the backlash would be rather severe.

But OK you are saying Jonas and some others are saying Jorgenson should be higher in the hierarchy, then Kuss. Lets see on where they finish and on who did the dom work. After we can discuss if it was the right call to make, or not.
 
I don't feel this comes down to respect or disrespect. For me personally it would be rather disrespectful if Visma really plans to use Jonas as a dom for Jorgenson and Kuss. That in my opinion wouldn't prove anything meaningful, quite the opposite. In my opinion the backlash would be rather severe.
Visma is just trolling and they will continue to do that until the first real mountain stage. Bluff.

P.s- i didn't knew Visma said something like that. I read the article some minutes ago.
 
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Visma is just trolling and they will continue to do that until the first real mountain stage. Bluff.

P.s- i didn't knew Visma said something like that. I read the article some minutes ago.

If Vingo gets relegated to a domestique role it'll be high time for him to search for a better team i.e. Israel Premier Tech (where he'll be a co-leader alongside Froomey!)
 
As an American, he seems to have a boasted ego from success and starts talking cocky. Very Americany thing to do.
Possibly. It’s also possible his agent or support team (at home) are telling him to take all the credit he can and stay in the limelight so as to make hay while the sun’s out, and boost his post career possibilities.
And he hasn’t yet said something like “they should be sh*tting their pants” and Im
Pretty sure Simon isn’t American :)
 
If Vingo gets relegated to a domestique role it'll be high time for him to search for a better team i.e. Israel Premier Tech (where he'll be a co-leader alongside Froomey!)
Vingo isn't doing domestic duty for anyone ... haha.

If Vingo can start the race, but is not able to compete for GC,, I suppose I could see Visma trying to use him like how they used Roglic as a decoy in 2022, the first year that Vingo won the TDF.

As I remember, Roglic fell and got hurt? but continued in the race and then on one of the big mountain days, Visma isolated Pogi and made him cover attacks of both Roglic and Vingo. (and maybe Sepp and/or WVA too? I don't remember). Point being, it appeared to me that Roglic knew he was going to eventually abandon as he wasn't 100%, but Visma was able to use him tactically before he did. Of course that scenario would make a lot more sense if Roglic was still on Visma.

So maybe I could see Vingo used as a decoy, but the day he loses time, I would guess he will drop out of the race.
 
Vingo isn't doing domestic duty for anyone ... haha.

If Vingo can start the race, but is not able to compete for GC,, I suppose I could see Visma trying to use him like how they used Roglic as a decoy in 2022, the first year that Vingo won the TDF.

As I remember, Roglic fell and got hurt? but continued in the race and then on one of the big mountain days, Visma isolated Pogi and made him cover attacks of both Roglic and Vingo. (and maybe Sepp and/or WVA too? I don't remember). Point being, it appeared to me that Roglic knew he was going to eventually abandon as he wasn't 100%, but Visma was able to use him tactically before he did. Of course that scenario would make a lot more sense if Roglic was still on Visma.

So maybe I could see Vingo used as a decoy, but the day he loses time, I would guess he will drop out of the race.
But back then, it was only Pogi. Now there are Rogla and Remco too. So a decoy won't work.

Yeah, Pogi shouldn't have followed Rogla. He should've let Rogla go.
 
As an American, he seems to have a boasted ego from success and starts talking cocky. Very Americany thing to do.
Social media is very very tricky most of these riders do fluffy back story stuff that has a good mix, their wife, pets, some sofa sitting, drinking coffee, oh what a nice guy..they all currently have it to some degree. Kuss has videos from Andorra and comes off as a decent guy and husband. There is always the risk of the encounter coming off as arrogant and overconfident.. Pog, and Remco both come off as likeable to semi likeable in their propaganda videos..
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L42QwB1UjGY&pp=ygUTc2VwcCBrdXNzIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0MMl8kA05jE&pp=ygUTc2VwcCBrdXNzIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D

Gotta be careful so people don't route against you