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Sepp Kuss... The 3 GT monster

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Nothing overly dramatic or ''conspiracy' like, actually.

I think doing 3 GT's exhausted him physically & mentally. I don't think 'the program' is entirely a magic bullet, i.e. a rider still needs to do the training, the dieting & all the rest. He's also been married now for a couple of years as well.

He just strikes me as a very unhappy person on the bike... & off it as well tbh. He displays absolutely zero zest, enthusiasm or zeal for his job. Remember the smiley Kuss from a couple of years ago? Yeah, he's MIA.
The happiness left with Roglstomp.....

Nah but seriously Kuss I'll judge after the Tour.
 
The happiness left with Roglstomp.....

Nah but seriously Kuss I'll judge after the Tour.
What's to judge he is riding as he was before, middle of the pack decent amongst mountain workers and he is maybe having a tough time carrying the massive backpack full of expectations up mountains. If guys need a teacher ,Gee and Jorgenson need to call Kuss and ask if there is anything to avoid when you have some good racing and everyone starts saying you are the new it rider.
 
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What do you mean by this? He is the sacrificial lamb for Jonas and Matteo, i.e., they are allowed to continue their program whilst Kuss must pay?

I don't think my post hinted at that at all & if it did, I didn't write it very well.

Personally I think Kuss is cooked. Done. Burned out physically & mentally after his 3 GT rampage last year. He also looks miserable as hell & gives weird interviews detached from reality.

It's a textbook example of 'unhappy athlete'. I have no idea what's going on at Visma inside the team but I'm pretty much 100% convinced there's an issue with Kuss. Whatever the actual cause is, I don't really know. It could be a combination of things (like the aforementioned burnout).

Why does any rider go from dominance to washed overnight? Take your pick regarding reasons. I just know the reason Zeeman gave for Kuss's replacement in the TdF startlist at Visma sounds very farfetched (he cited lack of recovery from Corona... which begs the question "was he recovered last week?" because they deemed him fit enough to name in the squad).
 
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. I just know the reason Zeeman gave for Kuss's replacement in the TdF startlist at Visma sounds very farfetched (he cited lack of recovery from Corona... which begs the question "was he recovered last week?" because they deemed him fit enough to name in the squad).
Is it not perfectly reasonable to think, "Last week it looked like he would recover in time, but his recuperation has been slower than he had hoped"? Leeman could very easily have been told that they were not certain as to whether Kuss would be fit, and to be on active standby.
 
I don't think my post hinted at that at all & if it did, I didn't write it very well.

Personally I think Kuss is cooked. Done. Burned out physically & mentally after his 3 GT rampage last year. He also looks miserable as hell & gives weird interviews detached from reality.

It's a textbook example of 'unhappy athlete'. I have no idea what's going on at Visma inside the team but I'm pretty much 100% convinced there's an issue with Kuss. Whatever the actual cause is, I don't really know. It could be a combination of things (like the aforementioned burnout).

Why does any rider go from dominance to washed overnight? Take your pick regarding reasons. I just know the reason Zeeman gave for Kuss's replacement in the TdF startlist at Visma sounds very farfetched (he cited lack of recovery from Corona... which begs the question "was he recovered last week?" because they deemed him fit enough to name in the squad).
No hint at all, I just assumed it is clinic related :). Btw I agree with you, he is not the same guy as last year. Maybe he just lost all motivation having won a grand tour. Maybe he is just tired of Jonas's "I did it for my second cousin" BS and he is looking to move on. Or maybe he decided the health risks of his program outweigh a top 10 in the Tour.
 
Is it not perfectly reasonable to think, "Last week it looked like he would recover in time, but his recuperation has been slower than he had hoped"?

I don't believe so, no.

It's not a recent thing with Kuss. If he'd shown any form this season at any point then maybe what Zeeman said could be taken at face value but I don't see it.

Kuss would need to have shown something in Tignes, i.e. something which could also suggest he might get better at some point later in the Tour & he could be useful then. But here they just pulled the plug & said no.

FYI Kuss raced the Giro last year after testing positive for Covid. The difference was he was good back then.
 
FYI Kuss raced the Giro last year after testing positive for Covid. The difference was he was good back then.
If he recovered well last year, that could make it more likely that they thought it was a confident hope that he would recover well this year, bur he has not. I'm not saying that it necessarily is the case (I have as little inside knowledge as I suspect you do), but this seems like unnecessary casting of doubt.

If your theory is that they never did include starting with Kuss, what would be their motivation in setting up a smoke screen about that?
 
If he recovered well last year, that could make it more likely that they thought it was a confident hope that he would recover well this year, bur he has not. I'm not saying that it necessarily is the case (I have as little inside knowledge as I suspect you do), but this seems like unnecessary casting of doubt.

If your theory is that they never did include starting with Kuss, what would be their motivation in setting up a smoke screen about that?

I didn't hint at that either! Maybe my writing is all over the place here but that's not what I meant.

If I was to guess, I'd say Kuss was on the startlist the same way a football star is in the starting line-up of a world class football team... even when his form is bad. Aka because that's all they have & he's one of their stars.

Kuss was always in the Tour team from minute one this season. That was the season planning. Jumbo (& now Visma) announce their core Tour team very early in the season. Kuss was seen as unmovable & irreplaceable, i.e. especially after the accidents/illness of their other stars. I think it just reached a tipping point whereby 4 days before the Tour they've looked at the form curve of this rider & realized he's not going to get any better, so they pulled the plug before it gets any worse (like a DNF next week).

But the material point is Kuss wasn't fine when they announced their team last week. There was no recovery then & there's none now. They'd simply 'hoped' he'd be better.

IMO there's a lot of hopium in Visma's TdF planning right now due to all the problems they've had.
 
I don't believe so, no.

It's not a recent thing with Kuss. If he'd shown any form this season at any point then maybe what Zeeman said could be taken at face value but I don't see it.

Kuss would need to have shown something in Tignes, i.e. something which could also suggest he might get better at some point later in the Tour & he could be useful then. But here they just pulled the plug & said no.

FYI Kuss raced the Giro last year after testing positive for Covid. The difference was he was good back then.
AFAIK, Kuss hasn't been in Tignes.