Shark Attacks Fanning

[jmdirt]

OH Sh*t!!

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13282470/mick-fanning-survives-shark-attack-competition-south-africa

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Was it the Discovery Channel who just featured "Shark Week" recently? I can't remember...

But yeah, I think the more sharks are displaced from their natural habitat (due to perhaps some homosapien activity) the more you can expect them on your beach.

Not here in Oregon, though, the water is much too cold for them here. (At least I think.)

 

[42x16ss]

The South African coast, from Cape Town through to Durban has always been bad for sharks. As for Mick Fanning, he learned to surf in far northern New South Wales where sharks are relatively common too.

 

[blackcat]

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Was it the Discovery Channel who just featured "Shark Week" recently? I can't remember...

But yeah, I think the more sharks are displaced from their natural habitat (due to perhaps some homosapien activity) the more you can expect them on your beach.

Not here in Oregon, though, the water is much too cold for them here. (At least I think.)

think a statistical analysis of sharks and humans indicates it is not statistically significant. And it is more with regional media being compressed into one channel in a 24 media cycle, and the shark attack is one of those media hot button subjects that find eyeballs in some atavistic primal instinct reaction tweaked thru a lens of media in C21

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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some atavistic primal instinct reaction tweaked thru a lens of media in C21

I'm not entirely sure what this means, could you break it down for me in some more simple terms?

 

[blackcat]

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some atavistic primal instinct reaction tweaked thru a lens of media in C21

I'm not entirely sure what this means, could you break it down for me in some more simple terms?

I suppose it might be like a bear attack in north america. I think humans have some fascination with animals of prey acting out their nature in the wild, and if any human flirts with fatality, this prompts a visceral reaction.

And the media like to print/publish/broadcast this. Because of the advertising dollars.

The formula is pretty simple. Shark attacks, bear attacks, people are fascinated with.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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I suppose it might be like a bear attack in north america. I think humans have some fascination with animals of prey acting out their nature in the wild, and if any human flirts with fatality, this prompts a visceral reaction.

And the media like to print/publish/broadcast this. Because of the advertising dollars.

The formula is pretty simple. Shark attacks, bear attacks, people are fascinated with.

I cannot disagree with any of this.

But would you agree that certain animals (such as bears here in North America) are being displaced from their natural habitat just because humans have been too busy moving into theirs?

 

[blackcat]

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I suppose it might be like a bear attack in north america. I think humans have some fascination with animals of prey acting out their nature in the wild, and if any human flirts with fatality, this prompts a visceral reaction.

And the media like to print/publish/broadcast this. Because of the advertising dollars.

The formula is pretty simple. Shark attacks, bear attacks, people are fascinated with.

I cannot disagree with any of this.

But would you agree that certain animals (such as bears here in North America) are being displaced from their natural habitat just because humans have been too busy moving into theirs?

sure. and camping grounds bring foodstuff too. But I think this is not the case with sharks, there is an american academic would works on this at University of New South Wales, he must work in the zoology sub-faculty in UNSW, or marine biology, if you are curious just google for shark academic. pretty sure he is american and at UniNSW

 

[Tricycle Rider]

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sure. and camping grounds bring foodstuff too. But I think this is not the case with sharks, there is an american academic would works on this at University of New South Wales, he must work in the zoology sub-faculty in UNSW, or marine biology, if you are curious just google for shark academic. pretty sure he is american and at UniNSW

I don't mean to be slow, but could you give me a link for this researcher? (All I'm getting on my end is Professor William (Bill) Sherwin. PhD (Melb); Cert. H. Ed. (UNSW)), and he apparently studies/studied dolphins. Can't really even tell whether he's a Yankee based on his profile.)

I'm not doubting you by any means, btw., animals will do what they need to do and they don't even need to think about it twice.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Here is the BBC's version of the incident - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33585853

And if I may quote the last part of the article:

Reuters says the waters are some of the most shark-infested in the world, and that a surfer was killed by a Great White shark close to Jeffreys Bay in 2013.

So, you know, in those parts surf at your own risk.

Didn't know surfers took their sport so seriously, btw., but that's just my own ignorance showing. (Unless we're talking about a documentary I had watched recently on Netflix called Out in the Line-Up, it sort of opened my eyes a bit to the whole surfing culture.)

 

[blackcat]

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sure. and camping grounds bring foodstuff too. But I think this is not the case with sharks, there is an american academic would works on this at University of New South Wales, he must work in the zoology sub-faculty in UNSW, or marine biology, if you are curious just google for shark academic. pretty sure he is american and at UniNSW

I don't mean to be slow, but could you give me a link for this researcher? (All I'm getting on my end is Professor William (Bill) Sherwin. PhD (Melb); Cert. H. Ed. (UNSW)), and he apparently studies/studied dolphins. Can't really even tell whether he's a Yankee based on his profile.)

I'm not doubting you by any means, btw., animals will do what they need to do and they don't even need to think about it twice.

http://sydney.edu.au/arts/government_international_relations/staff/profiles/christopher.neff.php

damn, uni Sydney. and different faculty altogether

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4178333.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3347956.htm

christopher neff
Chris Neff: The myth of the rogue shark - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcmy2Bd23wE

thats a TED talk, and TED talks are usually for idjits, but this distills/crystalises this issue for you

a one minute one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orii_L9lDNY

another, but a bit longer,
lets call this one a JAWS length
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELtkYMeC_mo

 

[jmdirt]

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some atavistic primal instinct reaction tweaked thru a lens of media in C21

I'm not entirely sure what this means, could you break it down for me in some more simple terms?

I suppose it might be like a bear attack in north america. I think humans have some fascination with animals of prey acting out their nature in the wild, and if any human flirts with fatality, this prompts a visceral reaction.

And the media like to print/publish/broadcast this. Because of the advertising dollars.

The formula is pretty simple. Shark attacks, bear attacks, people are fascinated with.

Yes. Plus Fanning came out unscathed. Are bear attacks different in North American than in other parts of the wold?

 

[thrawn]

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I suppose it might be like a bear attack in north america. I think humans have some fascination with animals of prey acting out their nature in the wild, and if any human flirts with fatality, this prompts a visceral reaction.

And the media like to print/publish/broadcast this. Because of the advertising dollars.

The formula is pretty simple. Shark attacks, bear attacks, people are fascinated with.

I cannot disagree with any of this.

But would you agree that certain animals (such as bears here in North America) are being displaced from their natural habitat just because humans have been too busy moving into theirs?

sure. and camping grounds bring foodstuff too. But I think this is not the case with sharks, there is an american academic would works on this at University of New South Wales, he must work in the zoology sub-faculty in UNSW, or marine biology, if you are curious just google for shark academic. pretty sure he is american and at UniNSW

Rob Brander is a 'surf scientist' at UNSW and is American. Has some pretty good youtube videos on surf safety. Doesn't do much on sharks as far as I know.